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Connector identification question
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 11:52 am
by Calamity Jane
Hi guys. Boyfriend and I are in the process of building a 2 gallon ss thumper to complement 5 gallon ss pot still we already have. BF aquired the 5 gallon with the lid pre-fitted with port to accept tubing. My question is what is the actual name of the connectors shown in my pics? And also, is there rust accumulating at edge because there is another metal being used in there, like brass? I think I read on here somewhere that you need to "pickle" brass then work with it quickly before oxidation sets in? Is that what's happening to the underside piece?
Top of lid:
Underside of lid:
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 12:17 pm
by acfixer69
The copper is a male adapter. The other to pieces are steel made for electrical connection and not suitable for a still. Do not use them.
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 12:23 pm
by River Rat
Yes those rusty nuts gotta go. They are lock nuts for electrical conduit fittings. You'll need to re-work your port with something that's all copper or stainless.
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 12:33 pm
by Calamity Jane
Thank you for the heads up. What is the official name for that part, the locking nut? Are there 2 pieces to it, one for each side of lid, sorta acting like a collar? Is there threading or "teeth" to grip better onto the lid?
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 12:41 pm
by River Rat
It's just called a conduit lock nut. You have two of them there, one on the outside and one on the inside. The corners on the lugs are angled so that they bite into the metal and resist backing off.
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 12:42 pm
by cob
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 12:43 pm
by Tummydoc
Yes they are electrical conduit lock nuts. Remove those, clean the rust off the lid, and solder the copper to the lid with Harris Stay-clean liquid flux and Harris Stay-brite8 solder
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Sun May 23, 2021 1:00 pm
by LWTCS
The nature of your question makes me think you should put together a napkin diagram of what it is you intend to do.
This way the gang can keep you pointed in the right direction.
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 11:08 am
by shadylane
Here's a stainless steel locknut
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 1:48 pm
by Calamity Jane
LWTCS wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:00 pm
The nature of your question makes me think you should put together a napkin diagram of what it is you intend to do.
This way the gang can keep you pointed in the right direction.
Here's the best I could come up with. The lid in original pic belongs to 5 gallon mash pot. Looking into Harris Stay Brite.
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 1:49 pm
by Calamity Jane
Tummydoc wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 12:43 pm
Yes they are electrical conduit lock nuts. Remove those, clean the rust off the lid, and solder the copper to the lid with Harris Stay-clean liquid flux and Harris Stay-brite8 solder
Thanks, looking into these.
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 1:51 pm
by LWTCS
Calamity Jane wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 1:48 pm
LWTCS wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:00 pm
The nature of your question makes me think you should put together a napkin diagram of what it is you intend to do.
This way the gang can keep you pointed in the right direction.
Drawing.jpeg
Here's the best I could come up with. The lid in original pic belongs to 5 gallon mash pot. Looking into Harris Stay Brite.
Ok sure.
Are you up to speed on the piping inside your thumper then?
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 2:38 pm
by LWTCS
I would (btw) highly recommend that you make your flake stand / worm at least as large as your primary kettle.
Those little tiny worm buckets you see on the internet simply have minimal knock down power for the duration of the run. You'll be an ice jockey in no time.
Certainly you can plumb in a fresh water replacement system.
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 4:09 pm
by Calamity Jane
shadylane wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 11:08 am
Here's a stainless steel locknut
Thanks for this!
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 4:15 pm
by Calamity Jane
LWTCS wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 1:51 pm
Calamity Jane wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 1:48 pm
LWTCS wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:00 pm
The nature of your question makes me think you should put together a napkin diagram of what it is you intend to do.
This way the gang can keep you pointed in the right direction.
Drawing.jpeg
Here's the best I could come up with. The lid in original pic belongs to 5 gallon mash pot. Looking into Harris Stay Brite.
Ok sure.
Are you up to speed on the piping inside your thumper then?
Yes I think so. Thumper will have long 1/2 in copper tube going to bottom. BF cut end of piece in half about 1/2 inch up then cut off one half to direct steam towards center of charge. Then exit port that will connect to our current condenser.
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 4:17 pm
by Calamity Jane
LWTCS wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 2:38 pm
I would (btw) highly recommend that you make your flake stand / worm at least as large as your primary kettle.
Those little tiny worm buckets you see on the internet simply have minimal knock down power for the duration of the run. You'll be an ice jockey in no time.
Certainly you can plumb in a fresh water replacement system.
Hobby Thumper Outfit.png
Current condenser is a 5 gallon plastic Homer bucket with 1/2 in copper coil worm. We went with a 2 gallon thumper to stay at 40% of mash pot.
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 4:25 pm
by Calamity Jane
Calamity Jane wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:15 pm
LWTCS wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 1:51 pm
Calamity Jane wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 1:48 pm
LWTCS wrote: ↑Sun May 23, 2021 1:00 pm
The nature of your question makes me think you should put together a napkin diagram of what it is you intend to do.
This way the gang can keep you pointed in the right direction.
Drawing.jpeg
Here's the best I could come up with. The lid in original pic belongs to 5 gallon mash pot. Looking into Harris Stay Brite.
Ok sure.
Are you up to speed on the piping inside your thumper then?
Yes I think so. Thumper will have long 1/2 in copper tube going to bottom. BF cut end of piece in half about 1/2 inch up then cut off one half to direct steam towards center of charge. Then exit port that will connect to our current condenser.
Sorta like this:
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Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Mon May 24, 2021 4:41 pm
by LWTCS
Yes Miss Jane.
That is what needs done.
A clear view can be seen if you click on my 3D drawing.
Though I did not show the cut end as your beau intends to do.
It's not a bad idea at all btw.
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:53 pm
by EDP_80
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Post Sun May 23, 2021 3:33 pm
Thank you for the heads up. What is the official name for that part, the locking nut? Are there 2 pieces to it, one for each side of lid, sorta acting like a collar? Is there threading or "teeth" to grip better onto the lid?
It’s a “Bulk-head fitting” yes they come in brass and copper all types of material but they are used when hydralauic lines have to pass through a compartment wall it secures the point of entry also used on brake systems, air systems things like that!
Re: Connector identification question
Posted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:21 pm
by Calamity Jane
EDP_80 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:53 pm
alamity Jane
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Post Sun May 23, 2021 3:33 pm
Thank you for the heads up. What is the official name for that part, the locking nut? Are there 2 pieces to it, one for each side of lid, sorta acting like a collar? Is there threading or "teeth" to grip better onto the lid?
It’s a “Bulk-head fitting” yes they come in brass and copper all types of material but they are used when hydralauic lines have to pass through a compartment wall it secures the point of entry also used on brake systems, air systems things like that!
Thank you for info.