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Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:25 pm
by Ayay
My favorite drink is vodka and coke...now pepsi because they don't hold back on the sugar. Having 95% on hand my favourite drink is a whole lot better because there is no added water. The pepsi is pure and so is the alcohol.
The problem is how to measure an accurate shot where small errors have consequences. I have worked out that a capfull (likker bottle screw cap) is about 13cc which translates to our local standard drink of 10gms of alcohol.
I don't like pouring into a bottle cap, it's too easy to spill. I want a 13cc dipper that will fit through a bottle neck and will make one if necessary, but before I go ahead making a dipper does anyone have ideas for an easier solution?
How consistent are the shot measures that fit on the bottle? I guess they will deliver about 2½ shots of 95%. Maybe put a dent in one to knock it down to a double at least?
Cheers, (and yes I know that coke or pepsi is bad for me).
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:33 pm
by rad14701
Most liquor pourer's are made to pour a consistent shot in a given period of time... They also make them of stainless steel and cork... Pour a one count, a two count, or a three count... That's how bartenders do it... Either that or pour into a shot glass... Piss on the idea of a scooper, that just sounds awkward...
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:50 pm
by Dr_T
Get a big syringe- 60 mL or so.
30 mL is an ounce, 45 is a standard shot.
Find big syringes at a feed store, probably.
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:09 pm
by big worm
s/s mesureing spoons? a cap full is a small amount
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:49 pm
by tracker0945
In the land of Oz, 30ml is the standard spirit measure.
Cheers.
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:01 pm
by eternalfrost
100 proof is just about 1:1 95% and water
40 proof is like 3:2
when im making mixed drinks i pretty much use this rule and it works for me
so like 1 shot 95% in a glass of juice makes a nice strong mixer (about 2.5 40 proof shots)
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 10:29 pm
by punkin
This just sounds like an extremely dangerous, unsafe practise to me.
What a load of crap that Pepsi doesn't have water in it.
Have you seen how it's mixed anywhere you buy it like a pub or bar on tap from a dispensing machine? It comes in bladders of syrup (at least in Oz) and then it's mixed with tap water and co2 as it's dispensed. if ya buy it in a bottle or can it's mixed with water and co2 before packaging...
Best thing (and easiest and safest) you can do is water your spirit down to a level that no-ones gunna get hurt and measure in a shot glass...Or by eye as the nips get bigger...
Haven't seen a nip dispenser yet without plastic and shit in the construction.
It'sAllGunnaEndInTearsAndBlackEye'sPunkin
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:10 pm
by eternalfrost
i agree. sorry my post sounds a bit misleading now that i reread it...
my first rule with 95% is NEVER be mixing it after you have had a few. mix plenty before you get started if its going to be 'one of those nights with the boys'
and the second rule is NEVER leave the bottle sitting out where unsuspecting people will think its just normal vodka...especially people without experience with it.
the night before i came up with that first rule i woke up naked as a jay bird out in a field, and no recollection how i got there (or where my clothes and gotten to)
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Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:22 pm
by Thirsty Bob
Whoa Punkin!
Someone hit a nerve.
punkin wrote:This just sounds like an extremely dangerous, unsafe practise to me.
What a load of crap that Pepsi doesn't have water in it.
Have you seen how it's mixed anywhere you buy it like a pub or bar on tap from a dispensing machine? It comes in bladders of syrup (at least in Oz) and then it's mixed with tap water and co2 as it's dispensed. if ya buy it in a bottle or can it's mixed with water and co2 before packaging...
Best thing (and easiest and safest) you can do is water your spirit down to a level that no-ones gunna get hurt and measure in a shot glass...Or by eye as the nips get bigger...
Haven't seen a nip dispenser yet without plastic and shit in the construction.
You are right and you are also off the mark. The man did not say that Pepsi had no water in it, he said it was pure. Where I live, the water treatment for carbonated beverages is superb. It is usually RO, from a municipal source that is excellent.
Yes, bar sources are iffy but he is not dealing with bar systems. He is blending a good honest shot with his preferred mixer.
I recently overhauled a bar dispensing system for a good and broke friend (not my usual business). I found many fruit fly parts and a
lot of plastic.
So what? The water system in Bangladesh is atrocious, but my water, and booze is just fine, When I knock together a still it will get even better.
I agree that the simplest thing he could do is use his still to make pure water, or just dilute it with water from the local mart but everyone is different.
We're all friends here mate.
Bob
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:37 pm
by Ayay
Thanks for the ideas, warning "It'sAllGunnaEndInTearsAndBlackEye'sPunkin!"
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, and to Bob!
The pepsi has water in it but I don't like any more than it's already got. Eternalfrost's idea of cutting the alcohol to 40% by adding juice (pepsi), and using that through a shot dispenser to mix with more pepsi seems the vay to go for me. Will need to store in glass bottles labelled "slightly sparkling dark vodka 40%". Will put most serious drinkers right off, but it's for personal use and I'll not waste too much by such travesty. It's just that pepsi+95% is the cleanest and sweetest mixer I've ever had.
I'll get over it when the pot still is up and running!
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:46 pm
by junkyard dawg
all I can think is that if you can tell the difference between pepsi with 95% and pepsi with 50% then you are wasting your tastebuds....
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:59 pm
by Thirsty Bob
junkyard dawg wrote:all I can think is that if you can tell the difference between pepsi with 95% and pepsi with 50% then you are wasting your tastebuds....
LOL, perhaps we are taking ourselves a bit too seriously.
After all, booze makes us all a bit foolish, so let us just keep it in that frame.
Unlike some of you, I have had some very embarrassing moments in the mornings.
B.
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:01 am
by Hawke
I don't leave anything stored over 50%. Distilled or RO water doesn't add or detract from taste. Any percieved difference is in the mind. Of course I wouldn't ruin my good straight corn by adding it to soda plop to begin with.
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:37 am
by dixiedrifter
If your really really anal pick yourself up a buret on ebay.
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:16 am
by heynonny
I mix my 90 % with shasta grapefruit (I wanna pop!) at 2/3 pop an' 1/3 alc. I mix in a 16 oz. plastic soft drink bottle, (yeh yeh, plastic, dont preach, I'm drinkin' it, not storing it), place it in coldest part of freezer, where the air blows out. (Shake it REALLY good to mix, it wont explode). It gets down to about 10 deg in my freezer without solidifying. Best in the good ole summertime like this, , , , -hey-
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:05 pm
by punkin
Thirsty Bob wrote:Whoa Punkin!
Someone hit a nerve.
punkin wrote:This just sounds like an extremely dangerous, unsafe practise to me.
What a load of crap that Pepsi doesn't have water in it.
Have you seen how it's mixed anywhere you buy it like a pub or bar on tap from a dispensing machine? It comes in bladders of syrup (at least in Oz) and then it's mixed with tap water and co2 as it's dispensed. if ya buy it in a bottle or can it's mixed with water and co2 before packaging...
Best thing (and easiest and safest) you can do is water your spirit down to a level that no-ones gunna get hurt and measure in a shot glass...Or by eye as the nips get bigger...
Haven't seen a nip dispenser yet without plastic and shit in the construction.
You are right and you are also off the mark. The man did not say that Pepsi had no water in it, he said it was pure. Where I live, the water treatment for carbonated beverages is superb. It is usually RO, from a municipal source that is excellent.
Yes, bar sources are iffy but he is not dealing with bar systems. He is blending a good honest shot with his preferred mixer.
I recently overhauled a bar dispensing system for a good and broke friend (not my usual business). I found many fruit fly parts and a
lot of plastic.
So what? The water system in Bangladesh is atrocious, but my water, and booze is just fine, When I knock together a still it will get even better.
I agree that the simplest thing he could do is use his still to make pure water, or just dilute it with water from the local mart but everyone is different.
We're all friends here mate.
Bob
No Bob, no nerve.
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I dunno what i said to make you think i wasn't freinds or that my message contained nasty tones
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...must be not enough smilies
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or the use of a mild swear word like crap.
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The internets like that i spose
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...but it's only conversation on my part,
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and the certainty that if anyone does this often enough there's gunna be mistakes and stupidity.
I'm with JD,
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if you can taste the difference tween plain pepsi and alchohol and pepsi and alchohol and 15-30ml springwater, you oughta be in showbiz.
HopeThatTakesAnyStingOutPunkin
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:35 pm
by Thirsty Bob
Cool punkin.
The written word has drawbacks, unless you are The Bard. Your post appeared to be derogatory/aggressive and I probably overreacted.
I am a newcomer to the site and I like the "feel" of it so I may put my nose in where it is not appropriate.
Mea Culpa
B.
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 9:47 am
by theholymackerel
Can someone with experience with 95% abv ethanol mix safe drinks?
Definately.
Can someone who is an experienced drinker, yet not a distiller and not used to 95% mix safe drinks with 95% ethanol?
Doubtful.
For the safety of my friends and family I mix my bottles of hooch to 40% abv (80 proof). This is the "standard" most anywhere, and when folks mix drinks with it they know what to expect and don't get surprised.
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:00 pm
by Ayay
I take the answer to my question as: there is no shot measure for 95% because I should not be measuring it for drinking.
It is a liability that can hurt in more ways than just getting accidentally drunker than intended (and it was only a tiny bit too much). Like leaving a loaded gun on the shelf.
Warnings heeded, and many great ideas for safer means of consumption appreciated.
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 12:07 pm
by Dr_T
Shoot, around here you can go *buy* 95%abv at the liquor store.
The idea that people can't make mixed drinks out of it successfully is a bit goofy, IMO.
As for accidental ingestion, anybody that breaks into my apartment and drinks something out of an unlabeled mason jar deserves whatever he gets. It might be high-proof liquor, or it could be much more dangerous than that.
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:34 pm
by punkin
theholymackerel wrote:Can someone with experience with 95% abv ethanol mix safe drinks?
Definately.
For the first couple.
Then the safety must go down in a very fast curve.
Dr_T wrote:
As for accidental ingestion, anybody that breaks into my apartment and drinks something out of an unlabeled mason jar deserves whatever he gets. It might be high-proof liquor, or it could be much more dangerous than that.
I try not to judge too much when i don't need to, but i find that very sad.
I think you should own much more responsibilty for what you do than that.
What if the culprits of the break-in's are a bunch of ten year old kids wagging school?
Or your twelve year old neice or nephew?
They're all someones children, and could easily wind up dead or brain dead in the worst case, especially if your neutral is as good as we aspire too.
If you can't bring yourself to care about other people, consider what would happen to you, and what you're loved ones would think of you after the investigation of a child in hospital....
This is one good reason to keep it illegal.
The risks are large, and the benefits are extremely dubious.
WeAreResponsibleForWhatWeCreatePunkin
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 1:50 pm
by Ayay
Around these parts the crook will get off for good behaviour and have all legal fees paid by the taxpayer, but leaving a banana on the apartment floor is criminal negligance. We have to be very safety conscious here yet people get hurt the same as anywhere; just aint their own stupid fault if somebody else can be blamed.
Edit: Too true Punkin - well put.
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:31 pm
by Dr_T
punkin wrote:
Dr_T wrote:
As for accidental ingestion, anybody that breaks into my apartment and drinks something out of an unlabeled mason jar deserves whatever he gets. It might be high-proof liquor, or it could be much more dangerous than that.
I try not to judge too much when i don't need to, but i find that very sad.
I think you should own much more responsibilty for what you do than that.
What if the culprits of the break-in's are a bunch of ten year old kids wagging school?
Wouldn't they get just as sick drinking a quart of 40%?
Wouldn't they get just as sick drinking a bottle of commercial 95%?
Door's shut, often locked. Liquor's on a shelf, out of reach of toddlers. Nobody ever comes to visit me.
How much more responsibility do you think I should own?
Edit- shouldn't a ten year old know better than to drink fluids from an unlabeled container? Doesn't Darwin come into play at this point?
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:21 pm
by punkin
Dr_T wrote:
Wouldn't they get just as sick drinking a quart of 40%?
Wouldn't they get just as sick drinking a bottle of commercial 95%?
Door's shut, often locked. Liquor's on a shelf, out of reach of toddlers. Nobody ever comes to visit me.
How much more responsibility do you think I should own?
Edit- shouldn't a ten year old know better than to drink fluids from an unlabeled container? Doesn't Darwin come into play at this point?
I'm not gunna keep repeating what i've said, but i'll answer what you've asked.
No they would not get just as sick drinking a quart of 40% as a quart of 95%
As far as i know we don't have commercial 95% in Australia, for two reasons..the one i've outlined, and the fact that it'd be taxed outa the market.
I think you should own the resposibility i've said i think you should own.
I know i'd do just about anything on a dare when i was ten, let alone fifteen, and if you're stating that you have 95% sitting in a unlabelled container, then you are a bigger fool than i took you for.
If you are stating that Darwins law should be used as an excuse for any outcomes of your poor storage practices, then i can only hope the error comes from you first. Enjoy your silicon flavoured 95%.
GoodbyeAndWelcomeToTheFoesListPunkin
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:28 pm
by Dr_T
punkin wrote:
GoodbyeAndWelcomeToTheFoesListPunkin
Don't be a hater, player.
I'm your "Foe" now? Because of how I store liquor?
Jars may be unlabeled until I bottle the stuff, sure. I could be in the middle of something and get called to work before I could finish.
But wouldn't a
labeled jar be more tempting to a youngster? "Alcohol - enjoy in moderation" might very well get the kids' attention.
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:42 pm
by Ayay
Dr_T wrote:
Wouldn't they get just as sick drinking a quart of 40%?
Wouldn't they get just as sick drinking a bottle of commercial 95%?
One would have to try real hard to stay concious before imbibing a lethal dose of 40%. A quick chugalug of 95% and then it's too late.
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:57 pm
by punkin
Please don't confuse hate with disrespect.
I doubt anyone could say too much from the other side of the ether to provoke hate in me.
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:24 pm
by Godstilla
Ayay,
Get a pipette. They are made of glass and you can measure spot on accurate.
Godstilla
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:33 pm
by Dr_T
punkin wrote:Please don't confuse hate with disrespect.
"It's just a expression."
And please, don't *you* confuse disagreement with disrespect- I honestly don't store unlabeled jars of stuff, I was trying to understand your example of unauthorized consumption. After all, it would be just as easy for somebody to break into my place and drink commercial spirits- 40%, 95%, whatever. It was just an example. Can we put this behind us? *extends hand for shaking*
As for this:
Ayay wrote:
One would have to try real hard to stay concious before imbibing a lethal dose of 40%. A quick chugalug of 95% and then it's too late.
Two chugs and a sip of 40% is equal to a chug of 95.
Do the math. It's not that hard to get puking drunk on 40% spirits, if I recall my youth accurately. In fact, one hears stories of people getting alcohol poisoning from beer. Not often, but it happens.
Re: Shot measure for 95%
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:41 pm
by Sour Masher
Dr T,
Don't waste your time with Punkin. Be proud to be on his foes list.
IHopeThePrickHasMeOnHisFoesListTooSourMasher