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Rum from scrach
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:15 pm
by lliw
Hey, Ive been stilling for a couple of months now, just using plain sugar and adding the flavoring.
I want to make a rum from scratch with molasses etc.
I see there are a few recipes around, what is the best one to do for a 25 Liter mix?
I have a few packets of 24 hr turbo yeast and a still spirits fractionating still.
Is molasses from the agricultural shop ok?
Thanks.
Re: Rum from scrach
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:44 pm
by Barney Fife
Lose the turbo and build a pot still
Re: Rum from scrach
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:13 am
by lliw
Righto mate, so its not possible to make rum with a fractionating still? I guess I could make a pot condenser and wack it on my current boiler.
I heard you can get special rum yeast?
Is there anything/website that will tell me the basics of making rum from scratch, Ive looked but cant really find anything?
Thanks
Re: Rum from scrach
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:57 am
by lliw
By the way im after a Dark rum like a Bundaberg (Australian) or a Jamaican.
Cheers.
Re: Rum from scrach
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 4:49 am
by Rudi
Re: Rum from scrach
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:30 am
by rad14701
Most Rum recipes are going to have a fairly aggressive ferment even with bakers yeast, so be careful... If you try a Turbo yeast with a Rum wash you may end up spending a lot of time cleaning your entire fermenting area...
As far as running a Rum wash through a column, it could probably be done as long as you can remove any packing and run with zero reflux... Packing and reflux will tend to strip out the coloring and flavoring, leaving you with close to neutral spirits...
There are several brown sugar and molasses rum recipes here on the site... Try them all or pick the one that best suits you needs...
Re: Rum from scrach
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:35 pm
by lliw
Thanks for the help fellas,
Just got 15 L of molasses from my mate at the ag shop for free.
Any idea on what percentage the spirit would come out at with no packing in the coloum?
Re: Rum from scrach
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 9:56 pm
by Dnderhead
De pends on column but I can git 60-70% ,which is good for flavor,from column.
Re: Rum from scrach
Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:55 am
by violentblue
did a couple runs of Pugirum over the holidays, if you want a nice dark rum this is the ticket.
pull all the packing and disconnect the reflux and do it in a single run. you get a nice deep flavorfull rum.
Re: Rum from scrach
Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 8:09 pm
by lliw
Ok so we fermented out the mix yesterday.
25 L total.
6L molasses
3kg brown sugar
1kg white sugar
24hr turbo yeast
It stopped with an SG of 1.3 i think from memory.
At the start of the distill we got like runny chocolate looking stuff but then it went a darkish clear color.
It then went pure clear (about 70%) then it started spewing out runny chocolate looking stuff again.
We collected different lots in small jars and it all SMELLS disgusting.
We stilled it in a reflux still with the packing removed. The temp in the thermometer was about 80 degrees.
We arnt game to drink it.
Any idea what we have done wrong?
Re: Rum from scrach
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 4:10 am
by minime
lliw wrote:Ok so we fermented out the mix yesterday.
At the start of the distill we got like runny chocolate looking stuff but then it went a darkish clear color.
It then went pure clear (about 70%) then it started spewing out runny chocolate looking stuff again.
We collected different lots in small jars and it all SMELLS disgusting.
We stilled it in a reflux still with the packing removed. The temp in the thermometer was about 80 degrees.
We arnt game to drink it.
Any idea what we have done wrong?
Weather you pot still or column still, your output should be crystal clear. Molasses washes make plenty of foam and it sounds like you foamed right up the column and puked. I use Pugi's recipe for my rum and have been running on a column with limited packing. I try to keep the ABV @ 93 to 94% and I'm getting a wonderful crisp rum that can be consumed right off the still and ages beautifully. I also remove heads very slowly as my wife will not drink anything with even a hint of heads present. If my parrot gets down under 92%ABV there is a distinct presence of tails in the rum.........molasses tails have a disgusting smell.
Re: Rum from scrach
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 12:55 pm
by violentblue
lliw wrote:Ok so we fermented out the mix yesterday.
25 L total.
6L molasses
3kg brown sugar
1kg white sugar
24hr turbo yeast
It stopped with an SG of 1.3 i think from memory.
At the start of the distill we got like runny chocolate looking stuff but then it went a darkish clear color.
It then went pure clear (about 70%) then it started spewing out runny chocolate looking stuff again.
We collected different lots in small jars and it all SMELLS disgusting.
We stilled it in a reflux still with the packing removed. The temp in the thermometer was about 80 degrees.
We arnt game to drink it.
Any idea what we have done wrong?
You were running it to hot and it puked.
I've never made anything with turbo yeast that tasted good.
loose the turbo, follow the Pugirum recipe in tried and true, and run it slower.
Re: Rum from scrach
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 1:45 pm
by Hawke
Did you rack it off or just dump the whole lot in the still?
Good news is: you can just dump what you collected back in with a little bit of water or clear backset and re-run it. (now that you got rid of most of the protiens, it shouldn't puke again)