Jesus christ have you guys seen this shit show yet?
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:34 pm
by HDNB
what in the actual fuck is that? a suicide still?
wow.
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:39 pm
by Wildcats
Bolverk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:37 pm
Jesus christ have you guys seen this shit show yet?
Definitely looks like a disaster waiting to happen, made with the glass...
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:45 pm
by Bolverk
I'll give the dude credit for being creative, but damn that thing is basically claymore
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:19 pm
by 6 Row Joe
Looks like something straight from the Moonshiners show. Got to have a thumper. If one is good a dozen is better.
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:27 pm
by Bolverk
6 Row Joe wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:19 pm
Looks like something straight from the Moonshiners show. Got to have a thumper. If one is good a dozen is better.
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:29 pm
by shadylane
Bolverk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:37 pm
Jesus christ have you guys seen this shit show yet?
That's an A number one, cluster fuck
It's also click bait, that was not alcohol being run.
No dephleg
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 9:13 pm
by Yonder
Not just glass but fruit jars from the label! Not even canning grade jars. Red hot frag grenades.
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2023 10:20 pm
by shadylane
Click bate of the worst kind.
It's obvious the jars with labels on them and the rest of the parts and pieces haven't been exposed to distillation temperatures and normal leakage.
I also noticed all the comments were positive.
Must be because anyone commenting and calling bullshit had been deleted.
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:41 am
by The Baker
And yet it looks very like an idea I was kicking around.
Nothing, I assure you, to do with distillation, or heating elements.
Coffee jars, oak backing.
Solera...
Geoff
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:55 am
by The Baker
Now how did he arrange the copper tubes connecting the jars...(through the plank)...
And how to hold the open jars against the oak plank without leakage?
A light 'plank' with holes cut out to equal the diameter of the jar below the ridge at the top;
then cut that in half from top to bottom so that when the halves are placed together again 'it' grabs the jars and
when 'it' is fixed in place against the oak plank the jars are secured.
Yes?
I've got the jars but don't have a regular oak plank, just 'curved' barrel staves and bits from those.
If I use a thicknesser to make the oak more straight I could affix that wood to a regular building plank...
A bit clumsy but I have ALL of those things...!
Maybe...
Geoff
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:58 am
by MooseMan
The Baker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:41 am
And yet it looks very like an idea I was kicking around.
Nothing, I assure you, to do with distillation, or heating elements.
Coffee jars, oak backing.
Solera...
Geoff
You know what Geoff, I've had something nibbling at the back of my brain along the same lines too, for when I eventually have enough worthy product to start a solera.
A kind of gravity auto fill stack of vessels...
The Baker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:41 am
And yet it looks very like an idea I was kicking around.
Nothing, I assure you, to do with distillation, or heating elements.
Coffee jars, oak backing.
Solera...
Geoff
You know what Geoff, I've had something nibbling at the back of my brain along the same lines too, for when I eventually have enough worthy product to start a solera.
A kind of gravity auto fill stack of vessels...
The Baker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:41 am
And yet it looks very like an idea I was kicking around.
Nothing, I assure you, to do with distillation, or heating elements.
Coffee jars, oak backing.
Solera...
Geoff
You know what Geoff, I've had something nibbling at the back of my brain along the same lines too, for when I eventually have enough worthy product to start a solera.
A kind of gravity auto fill stack of vessels...
See my thinking notes above...
Light bulb moments here.
I had been thinking all the time about the jars being faced THE OTHER WAY. With taps and expensive special tubing...
Not FACING EACH OTHER THROUGH THE OAK PLANK! jOINED WITH COPPER TUBE.
Geoff
sORRY i BUMPED SOMETHING AND THIS i THINK GOT SUBMITTED HALF FINISHED. But I am excited! G.
The Baker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:41 am
And yet it looks very like an idea I was kicking around.
Nothing, I assure you, to do with distillation, or heating elements.
Coffee jars, oak backing.
Solera...
Geoff
You know what Geoff, I've had something nibbling at the back of my brain along the same lines too, for when I eventually have enough worthy product to start a solera.
A kind of gravity auto fill stack of vessels...
See my thinking notes above...
Light bulb moments here.
I had been thinking all the time about the jars being faced THE OTHER WAY. With taps and expensive special tubing...
Not FACING EACH OTHER THROUGH THE OAK PLANK! JOINED WITH COPPER TUBE.
Geoff
Bolverk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 3:37 pm
Jesus christ have you guys seen this shit show yet?
That's an A number one, cluster fuck
It's also click bait, that was not alcohol being run.
No dephleg
Could a dephlegmator be mounted in a vertical tube joined above?
And before I get castigated about the glass jars could you use say borosilicate 'jars'?
Seems an interesting concept;
but I am more interested in a solera.
Which could be good for port too.
Geoff
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:09 am
by Bolverk
The Baker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:02 am
Could a dephlegmator be mounted in a vertical tube joined above?
And before I get castigated about the glass jars could you use say borosilicate 'jars'?
Seems an interesting concept;
but I am more interested in a solera.
Which could be good for port too.
Geoff
At that point you might as well do a glass column, far less complicated and a lot safer.
The Solara idea is pretty interesting, I've been kina thinking something along the same lines to make transferring the product easier.
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:37 am
by MooseMan
The Baker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:07 am
See my thinking notes above...
Light bulb moments here.
I had been thinking all the time about the jars being faced THE OTHER WAY. With taps and expensive special tubing...
Not FACING EACH OTHER THROUGH THE OAK PLANK! JOINED WITH COPPER TUBE.
Geoff
I am excited! G.
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I agree G, it's a pretty exciting design possibility.
Now I was thinking of using 3x brown glass, 1g Demijohns that I have, and arranging them on their sides so that they are joined through oak, with a tubing system that will autofill from above as you pull product from the bottom.
I think I'd like a little 1g stainless tank at the bottom with a tap, to hold the oldest and best stuff, and act as a support for the rest.
This way they will hold approx 1/2 gal each, depending on the tubing arrangement I use (I'm sure I could use an upturned spout inside, to raise the level a bit?)
I only see this in my brain at this point, but one day I'll start drawing and then it will have to become a thing.
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:34 am
by NormandieStill
I really like the elegance of this idea for a solera. When planning the tubing, you do need to get the inlet as high as possible to ensure that trapped air can flow back out, otherwise you'll never get the jars to fill. And maybe plan some kind of isolation valve system to allow you to hot change a jar (after a while, the wood will get "exhausted" and you might want to add some staves to the jar). There's potential for an awesome, steampunk looking thing.
I do wonder about leaving the spirits in permanent contact with copper. Perhaps stainless would be better.
Re: Definitely don't do this
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:04 am
by MooseMan
NormandieStill wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:34 am
I really like the elegance of this idea for a solera. When planning the tubing, you do need to get the inlet as high as possible to ensure that trapped air can flow back out, otherwise you'll never get the jars to fill. And maybe plan some kind of isolation valve system to allow you to hot change a jar (after a while, the wood will get "exhausted" and you might want to add some staves to the jar). There's potential for an awesome, steampunk looking thing.
I do wonder about leaving the spirits in permanent contact with copper. Perhaps stainless would be better.
I'm not sure what I eventually Frankenstein together will fit the word "Elegance" norm, but steampunk, far more likely!
And yes I am planning stainless tubing where needed.
At this point I'd like to thank Bolverk, for activating my brain to speak about this, as discussing it is firing extra neurons and people's input can only serve to improve the design.