Celebrating our differences

[Steve Broady]

I recently listened to an interview with one of the few remaining Navajo code talkers from WW2. He shared his hope that, rather than hating each other for speaking different languages and having our differences, that people could understand that our diversity is our strength. While his message was specifically about Americans, I think the lesson is a good one for everyone.

It reminded me of something that’s been in the back of my mind on this forum for a while now. I am well aware that there are some folks here with whom I might disagree strongly on a variety of subjects, and yet more than once I’ve been struck by comments some of those folks have made that remind me of the good in people from all walks of life. It makes me hope that someone might think the same of me some day.

We are a diverse bunch, representing just about every demographic imaginable, but we can all come together to agree on our hobby. I am thankful for all of you, even the ones that I disagree with, and especially the ones who call me out when I say or do something stupid.

[Kareltje]

Hear, hear!

[MooseMan]

That's a rather profound and actually a pretty heartfelt post there my friend.

And I wholly agree with you.
Some of the conversations I've had on this forum already, in only 2 short years, have made clear to me that I value the opinions and input from people who have a genuine interest in my chosen hobby, regardless of our differences in life, age, background or anything else, and that they are often of more value when they don't necessarily agree with my words!

[NormandieStill]

I've said this before, and I'm not the first to comment, but it bears repeating: Considering the nature of the forum and the fact that any members who've been here over a year probably have access to fairly generous stocks of high-proof liquor, the level of discourse is beyond civil! The mods do a fantastic job, and I doubt that we see all their interventions, but I've only noticed a handful times since I've been here where someone has stepped in. And on more than one occasion I've seen a flame war abruptly stop when one of the parties recognises a misunderstanding and apologises.

Honestly if the rest of the humanity behaved as well as 99.999% of the members of this forum, I think our newspapers would be a lot less interesting to read!

So I'll join you in a little toast to this diverse and focused group.

[Salt Must Flow]

Diversity is not a strength. It never has been. History has shown this. Studies repeatedly show this too. Ask Paris how that diversity is working out for them. It's a shit hole now. Ask New York how it's working out for them too. It's a bigger shit hole now.

[Twisted Brick]

Diversity is not a strength. It never has been. History has shown this. Studies repeatedly show this too. Ask Paris how that diversity is working out for them. It's a shit hole now. Ask New York how it's working out for them too. It's a bigger shit hole now.

I fail to see this post's relevance to distilling. Without watching the attached video, it appears this derogatory rant is in direct violation of Rule F prohibiting discussion of religion and politics.

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[Steve Broady]

Diversity is not a strength. It never has been.

I can only answer by paraphrasing the Navajo man whom I mentioned at the beginning. Someone recognized that this language was an invaluable resource in the war effort, because it was unwritten and virtually unknown to the outside world. That was his entire point about diversity. I will add that I value the diversity of opinions, ideas, and experiences here, because it has more than once given me something to consider that I would never have otherwise.

I respect that not everyone agrees with anything I think, this included, but I hope they can at least see the value in looking at things from a different viewpoint for a moment, or simple respectfully moving on to the next topic that is likely more interesting.

[shadylane]

Diversity is not a strength. It never has been.

I absolutely and totally Disagree with your statement.

Every human is different, even those with the same skin and hair color.
Imagin how boring it would be if every woman had the same body, breast, and bottom.
I'm in favor of diversity and think it's gods blessing to human race....

[Salt Must Flow]

Diversity is not a strength. It never has been. History has shown this. Studies repeatedly show this too. Ask Paris how that diversity is working out for them. It's a shit hole now. Ask New York how it's working out for them too. It's a bigger shit hole now.

I fail to see this post's relevance to distilling. Without watching the attached video, it appears this derogatory rant is in direct violation of Rule F prohibiting discussion of religion and politics.

app.php/rules#Religion_and_Politics

I fail to see this thread's relevance to distilling. It's "Off-Topic Discussion". Maybe that's why?

Exactly what was "derogatory" and what about it is a "rant" exactly?

Discuss "diversity", call it "our strength" and people automatically cheer. Just NOT 'diversity of thought' backed up with facts. See how that works?

Ask Disney how that diversity is working out for them. It isn't, fact. People don't like subversion, demoralization and normalization.

[shadylane]

It's a natural human reaction for some folks to feel threatened by people that are different from them.
The best cure is to be around a diverse group of people for an extended period of time.
It doesn't take long to realize that humans are mostly the same on the inside.
Some are nice, some are rotten and some feel the need to hate because they are afraid.

[elbono]

The best cure is to be around a diverse group of people for an extended period of time.
It doesn't take long to realize that humans are mostly the same on the inside.
Some are nice, some are rotten

I was lucky to see parts of the world outside the US where I'm from. Some found me interesting because of that, some didn't like me because of that, but most were just people, treat them well they will do the same.

[shadylane]

I can only answer by paraphrasing the Navajo man whom I mentioned at the beginning. Someone recognized that this language was an invaluable resource in the war effort, because it was unwritten and virtually unknown to the outside world.

Here's my 2 cents worth.

An elderly and wise Navajo Veteran, who used his native language during war.
Shared his hope that, "Rather than hating each other for speaking different languages and having our differences, that people could understand that our diversity is our strength"

[Salt Must Flow]

Bud Light went on that "diverse" train and FAILED miserably. So how was that "diversity their strength"?

Victoria Secret went "diverse" and went damn near broke. They recently REVERSED their direction. That's what "diversity" did for them. So how was "diversity their strength"?

The company that operates the Miss Universe pageant filed for bankruptcy. A MAN won the Miss Universe. There's that "diversity" for them. So how was that "diversity their strength"?

Disney/Marvel just released 'The Marvels' which was the worst opening weekend ever for any MCU (M SHE U) film at $47 million. They're also going BROKE. How's that "diversity" working out for them?

Star Wars went feminist and lost billions. BILLIONS. How did that "diversity" work for them? How do you fuck up Star Wars? Oh ... just add 'wokeism' that's how.

There are countless examples of 'wokeness' turning EVERYTHING into SHIT. I could list 500 other examples. So just how is "diversity our strength"? Consider that we are dealing with FORCED DIVERSITY. Forced diversity is what is being pumped out by Hollywood and other main stream media outlets. Forced Diversity is actually now required for an Oscars award.Considering that this 'wokeness' is now required ... when will this clear subversion be recognized?

[NormandieStill]

So just to be clear, your numerous examples of the terrible effects of diversity are mostly the failures of a bunch of misogynistic organisations that have been feeling the backlash for a while now. Disney is not floundering on the brink of collapse and MCU fatigue has been setting in for a good few films.

A "MAN" did not win miss universe and honestly, most of the viewers of that 1950s-attitude "pageant" of style over substance would not have looked long enough at her face to even begin to ask themselves if there was something different.

Presumably we should immediately reverse this trend and return to the belle epoch when only land owning white men had the right to vote. Or you could look at the historical context and understand that we are simply continuing a long tradition of inclusivity at which certain groups have always bristled due to the "watering down" of their rights and culture.

Also it's been about a year since I was last in Paris but it didn't seem any more of a shit hole than when I lived there in 2006... just after one of the most recent rounds of rioting sparked by police violence. If you "diversify" your media intake somewhat you might find that things are not so different as they seem.

[shadylane]

A MAN won the Miss Universe. There's that "diversity" for them. So how was that "diversity their strength"?

The current Miss Universe, R'Bonney Gabriel might take offence to being called a man.
Maybe more diverse sources of information would decrease the odds of folks laughing at your mistakes.

[Swedish Pride]

Don't be a twat salt, the post is about acceptance not an excuse to get your knickers in a twist about what's wrong with society

[Sporacle]

Normandie, Shady and SP.
Let's mash and distill, let's not do all the other crap, thanks for calling out the crap:thumbup:

[Yummyrum]

On that note , I think it’s a good time to put this one to rest . Seems like Uncle Jesse had good reason to include such a rule .

Like Sporicale said , lets get back to Mashing & Distilling .