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by roberto188
Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:07 am
Forum: Sugar
Topic: Carbon filter sugar wash before distillation?
Replies: 29
Views: 11755

Re: Carbon filter sugar wash before distillation?

Actually, what I was trying to point out was that AC is accused of leaving a harsh taste/mouthfeel and also of helping producing the "worlds purest drink". These two things contradict. These may not necessarily be conflicting. "Pure by chemistry standards" may not necessarily yi...
by roberto188
Fri Dec 11, 2015 7:19 am
Forum: Sugar
Topic: Carbon filter sugar wash before distillation?
Replies: 29
Views: 11755

Re: Carbon filter sugar wash before distillation?

Out of curiosity I ran some of it through an AC filter (thinking, this will only make it taste better!), and it actually made it taste worse, more harsh on the pallet. That reminds me of something I read here a long time ago, "Good flavors cover up bad flavors". It also makes me think of ...
by roberto188
Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:11 am
Forum: Sugar
Topic: Carbon filter sugar wash before distillation?
Replies: 29
Views: 11755

Re: Carbon filter sugar wash before distillation?

Bagasso, I do agree my comment on smoothness does seem nebulous. But I don't think you're hypothesis is the case. Last year I had a batch that came out really good, very clean tasting and smooth. Out of curiosity I ran some of it through an AC filter (thinking, this will only make it taste better!),...
by roberto188
Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:24 am
Forum: Sugar
Topic: Carbon filter sugar wash before distillation?
Replies: 29
Views: 11755

Re: Carbon filter sugar wash before distillation?

I've run a quick neutral strip through my 5 foot AC column.Two passes might have made it better but it's definitely drinkable. Good enough as a mixer, wouldn't drink it straight though. The AC does strip away the "off" flavors, but it also removes the smoothness that a good tight re-distil...
by roberto188
Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:40 am
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: Filtering with activated carbon?
Replies: 99
Views: 45155

Re: Filtering with activated carbon?

Misneac, Don't be bothered by the fanatics here. I use a AC filter column to polish and clean up some bad runs, or sometimes just the beginning and ends of really good runs. It's a tool. It is possible to try and still the best you can, refine your craft and get good to a point that you don't need t...
by roberto188
Wed Sep 30, 2015 11:03 am
Forum: Research and Theory
Topic: ISU professor develops 'world's purest' vodka
Replies: 46
Views: 8719

Re: ISU professor develops 'world's purest' vodka

Not to be a pessimist but did any of you read the actual literature? It stated that 10% concentration is the best value to extract the contaminates and that at higher concentrations it much harder to get them out. What are you going to do, dilute your distillate to 10%, run the O3 and CO2 through it...
by roberto188
Sun Feb 01, 2015 11:08 am
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: Rum Flavoring
Replies: 17
Views: 2352

Re: Rum Flavoring

Ok after 1.5 weeks in the barrel this is what I have. It's 65% abv. Should I let it age at this proof or dilute to drinking strength then age?
by roberto188
Sun Feb 01, 2015 5:30 am
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: Rum Flavoring
Replies: 17
Views: 2352

Re: Rum Flavoring

Thanks Humbledore. I was under the impression that having temperature control was important, that running a potstill on lower power made it easier to make the cuts, just took longer. I've done tons of neutrals and just starting out with rum. Next time I guess I'll detune and run as you said. Thanks.
by roberto188
Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:53 pm
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: Rum Flavoring
Replies: 17
Views: 2352

Re: Rum Flavoring

90C too high a temp to be mixing tails? From the smell and taste at them time it was kind of sweet. When it started to go above 90C it seems to get kinda nasty smelling/tasting. Please keep in mind i'm doing this from a 4 foot reflux column because the only temperature control I have is unplugging 1...
by roberto188
Sat Jan 31, 2015 3:16 pm
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: How to carbon Filter
Replies: 97
Views: 19815

Re: How to carbon Filter

Shady. Maybe I was unclear. Not an AIR pump. An aquarium circulation pump. The pump is used to keep the water circulating. NOT to add air.
by roberto188
Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:41 am
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: Rum Flavoring
Replies: 17
Views: 2352

Re: Rum Flavoring

I just received a 5 liter Oak Barrel from my cousin-in-law last week.Cleaned it, and loaded it up with 65% ABV distillate. I'm gonna let that sit a while and see what happens.
by roberto188
Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:36 am
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: How to carbon Filter
Replies: 97
Views: 19815

Re: How to carbon Filter

That sounds like the Nixon/Stone method from the "Making Gin and Vodka" book I bought so many years ago. I never could get it to work (Under pitching, I think), and ended up using a mini-mash of two-row barley and lots of sugar... (Always liked a slightly malty flavor to my vodka) You are...
by roberto188
Thu Jan 29, 2015 9:27 am
Forum: Sugar
Topic: Sugar wash
Replies: 32
Views: 6694

Re: Sugar wash

OMG...!!! An air pump running in an actively fermenting wash...??? Have you actually researched how yeast work and what they do and don't need...??? I'm assuming you are referring to 20 pounds of yeast in 10 gallons of water with 1 pound of yeast... That isn't a recipe, that's a horror story... It'...
by roberto188
Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:16 am
Forum: Sugar
Topic: Sugar wash
Replies: 32
Views: 6694

Re: Sugar wash

Also, I'd recommend for a fast sugar ferment, just use 1lb of bakers yeast (cake) a tiny aquarium pump and an aquarium heater in your vessel. You can ferment 20lb of sugar in about 24 hours with it. My experience is the results are a bit better than the turbos. Just my 2 cents.
by roberto188
Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:01 am
Forum: Sugar
Topic: Sugar wash
Replies: 32
Views: 6694

Re: Sugar wash

Little bit of carbon filtering will very easily remove that "sweet" taste your talking about. I built a carbon filter to remove the sweet aroma from my sugar wash vodak.Mine didn't have a sweet taste, I only had a slight aroma. BTW the smells and taste will come out MORE as you dilute clos...
by roberto188
Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:59 am
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: How to carbon Filter
Replies: 97
Views: 19815

Re: How to carbon Filter

Yes, with two aquarium heaters turned all the way up.
by roberto188
Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:14 pm
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: How to carbon Filter
Replies: 97
Views: 19815

Re: How to carbon Filter

How ever many gallons it took to get a 10% potential. I used a hydrometer.
by roberto188
Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:28 am
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: Rum Flavoring
Replies: 17
Views: 2352

Re: Rum Flavoring

Tried some near last night. Much better than on the rock for whatever reason. The coldness seems to somehow drown out the rum flavor/aroma. Will continue to let sit.
by roberto188
Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:02 pm
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: Rum Flavoring
Replies: 17
Views: 2352

Re: Rum Flavoring

Cool. Thanks Firewater. I'll let it sit a while. I'll also look into some sticks instead of chips.
by roberto188
Wed Jan 14, 2015 3:00 pm
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: How to carbon Filter
Replies: 97
Views: 19815

Re: How to carbon Filter

I used 20 lbs of white sugar, a tiny aquarium pump and 2 aquarium heaters turned all the way up. Did it in a rectangular tupperware container with the lid ajar. started at about 10% and finished dry in i day. Use warm water around 90F when pitching the yeast. Crumble 1lb of moist cake yeast on surfa...
by roberto188
Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:33 am
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: Rum Flavoring
Replies: 17
Views: 2352

Re: Rum Flavoring

I did about 1/4 cup of chips to 750ml of 40% ABV rum. Like I said, I nuked it once or twice to get the desired color and taste. First two days it tasted great, now it's not nearly as smooth and the Rum flavor seems to have dissipated. Also has a bit of an astringent feel to it.
by roberto188
Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:42 pm
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: Rum Flavoring
Replies: 17
Views: 2352

Re: Rum Flavoring

Ok so here I am a few days later and my rum now tastes different. Slightly astringent, less rummyness. Is it possible that storing in large mouth mason jars affects flavor? The taste is very alcoholly. Almost like badly flavored vodka. Any ideas?
by roberto188
Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:39 pm
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: Rum Flavoring
Replies: 17
Views: 2352

Re: Rum Flavoring

Read through the Pugirum post. A lot of stuff there. What specifically do think a reflux still would do different than a pot still? I don't have a way of controlling the heat input so I can't really detune and run it like a pot still.
by roberto188
Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:29 pm
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: How to carbon Filter
Replies: 97
Views: 19815

Re: How to carbon Filter

Why would I need yeast nutrient when pitching 1lb of yeast? Keeping aerated allows it to multiply and there are so many yeast, the wash gets fermented well before the yeast would require additional nutrient. I make wine, beer and cider and always use nutrient then, as the yeast counts are tiny compa...
by roberto188
Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:27 pm
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: How to carbon Filter
Replies: 97
Views: 19815

Re: How to carbon Filter

All fermented out. 1lb of bakers yeast, circ pump and aquarium heater keeps or warm and aerated. Thing flies. Hydrometer reading says all dry in 24 hours.
by roberto188
Sun Jan 11, 2015 9:06 am
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: Rum Flavoring
Replies: 17
Views: 2352

Rum Flavoring

I recently finished my 2nd rum batch. Thought I would toss this out for information/commenting. I fermented 2.5 gallons of Feed Molasses with Red Star Bakers Yeast. Then ran it through my reflux. Threw the heads out, kept the hearts and collected tails up to 90C. Mixed hearts and tails. Dilluted to ...
by roberto188
Sun Jan 11, 2015 5:47 am
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: How to carbon Filter
Replies: 97
Views: 19815

Re: How to carbon Filter

Holy Crap. I thought because via experimentation I had gotten my answer this thread would have died. I guess not. To be clear, my intention was to build a proof of concept carbon filter and use it to remove the slight sugar aroma I was getting from my sugar wash vodka. That is all. Not to correct ba...
by roberto188
Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:47 am
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: How to carbon Filter
Replies: 97
Views: 19815

Re: How to carbon Filter

As mentioned. Proof of concept. Stainless filter under construction.
by roberto188
Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:52 am
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: How to carbon Filter
Replies: 97
Views: 19815

Re: How to carbon Filter

The results are in. I have 5 different batches: 1) Beer stripped, reflux run 2) Beer stripped, reflux fun then carbon filtered 3) Beer stripped, carbon filtered 4) Beer stripped, carbon filtered, reflux run 5) Beer stripped, carbon filtered, reflux run, carbon filtered Number 4 was by far the best w...
by roberto188
Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:42 am
Forum: Flavoring and Aging
Topic: How to carbon Filter
Replies: 97
Views: 19815

Re: How to carbon Filter

Ok, so I ran my low wines (Smelled like Chelac!) through the Carbon filter and threw them back in for reflux distillation this weekend. We'll see how it comes out. With that being said, just running my still with no reflux and carbon filtering actually yielded a pretty drinkable vodka, no off aroma ...