I've read and read and read, searched and searched and searched, and still can't seem to find a decent answer. I know this is a simple first question for a newbie but here goes. Why are the cooling pipes on some internal reflux stills routed through the column? Is this what is causing the internal reflux? And then some stills that aren't thru-piped have copper mesh in the column for reflux? Once I wrote this I think I answered it myself.
Partsbill
Cooling pipes in the column
Moderator: Site Moderator
-
- Novice
- Posts: 98
- Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 7:03 am
- Location: Parts Unknown in NC
-
- Swill Maker
- Posts: 337
- Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:37 pm
- Location: San Francisco
The answer to your question is yes. The packing alone will cause some very limited reflux. A combination of packing and cooling is necessary for full reflux to occur.
There is some debate on the efficacy of cooling tubes through the column. I don’t care for the design myself and see it as mostly a cost saving shortcut.
Most of the guys here run a reflux coil at the top of the column or to the side in an offset Nixon/Stone design. Cooling in the middle of the column will screw up your plate distribution.
There is some debate on the efficacy of cooling tubes through the column. I don’t care for the design myself and see it as mostly a cost saving shortcut.
Most of the guys here run a reflux coil at the top of the column or to the side in an offset Nixon/Stone design. Cooling in the middle of the column will screw up your plate distribution.
-
- Rumrunner
- Posts: 511
- Joined: Thu Apr 14, 2005 5:40 am
- Location: The Confederate by God States
Cooling tubes near the top are reported by some to be functional. Cooling tubes further down were probably put there ar a structural item to hold the condenser up while feeding water to it. Cooling tubes through the middle of the column are most likrly a bad thing.
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, and them's pretty good odds.
-
- Rumrunner
- Posts: 641
- Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 2:52 pm
- Location: Canada
Re: Cooling pipes in the column
You many not have all your facts straight yet because all reflux columns have packing in them not just the internal reflux models. Without the packing you would have almost no reflux no matter what you did to return condensed spirits down the column.partsbill wrote:I've read and read and read, searched and searched and searched, and still can't seem to find a decent answer. I know this is a simple first question for a newbie but here goes. Why are the cooling pipes on some internal reflux stills routed through the column? Is this what is causing the internal reflux? And then some stills that aren't thru-piped have copper mesh in the column for reflux? Once I wrote this I think I answered it myself.
Partsbill
... I say God bless you, I don't say bless you ... I am not the Lord, I can't do that ...
Dane Cook
Dane Cook
-
- Swill Maker
- Posts: 430
- Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:36 am
- Location: Belgium
As Rocky Creek said, cooling tubes are more efficient near the top of the column. I build my reflux still by this way. I followed the plan from the e-book "Building a home distillation apparatus", but I changed the place of cooling tubes to set them upper in the column. Also I added a valve to control cooling water flow. It works very well when packed with SS scrubbers. If you want, check pictures on my weblog.
I'm french speaking!
Boiler : 50 L (13 gal) beer keg, gas heated.
Reflux : 104 cm (41 inches) column 54 mm (2 inches) diameter withh SS scrubbers packing.
Potstill : 40 cm (15 inches) column 54 mm (2 inches) diameter without packing.
Boiler : 50 L (13 gal) beer keg, gas heated.
Reflux : 104 cm (41 inches) column 54 mm (2 inches) diameter withh SS scrubbers packing.
Potstill : 40 cm (15 inches) column 54 mm (2 inches) diameter without packing.
-
- Swill Maker
- Posts: 430
- Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:36 am
- Location: Belgium
-
- Swill Maker
- Posts: 430
- Joined: Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:36 am
- Location: Belgium
The potstill isn't finished yet becouse I can't find a (
) piece of 34 mm copper tube to achieve the condensor!



I'm french speaking!
Boiler : 50 L (13 gal) beer keg, gas heated.
Reflux : 104 cm (41 inches) column 54 mm (2 inches) diameter withh SS scrubbers packing.
Potstill : 40 cm (15 inches) column 54 mm (2 inches) diameter without packing.
Boiler : 50 L (13 gal) beer keg, gas heated.
Reflux : 104 cm (41 inches) column 54 mm (2 inches) diameter withh SS scrubbers packing.
Potstill : 40 cm (15 inches) column 54 mm (2 inches) diameter without packing.