more "shine" news

TRANSPLANTED HILLBILLY · Tue Jun 06, 2006 1:39 pm

looks to be 8 years old but still a disturbing

article. I have heard of a couple of these guys when I was living back home.

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stoker · Post by **stoker** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:39 am

Moonshine is widely considered to be a health hazard because some distillers use lead pipes in production or battery acid to speed up fermentation

=H2SO4
is the acid to decrease the Ph? why would that make bad boost?

Jack A. Powell, a retired ABC agent who recently published a book about his undercover adventures in Southwest Virginia

I think it's a very interesting book to read

TRANSPLANTED HILLBILLY · Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:57 am

because the battery acid is not as pure as what you would use to lower ph. particularly after it has been in a battery.

possum · Post by **possum** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 1:52 pm

In a battery, the Pb ions migrate into the H2SO4 soloution...If I recall corectly.

stoker · Post by **stoker** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:25 am

but if you use battery acid, bought in a shop, it will not have any Pb in it. it would be pritty stupid to get it out of your battery.

(and btw, almost all the lead will stay in your boiler.)
and lead sulfate is insoluble in water

Post by **Fourway** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:41 am

but if you use battery acid, bought in a shop, it will not have any Pb in it. it would be pritty stupid to get it out of your battery.

(and btw, almost all the lead will stay in your boiler.)
and lead sulfate is insoluble in water

and is that the really the info you'd like newbies (who often dont read carefully and are just skimming to get aquainted with the basics) to come away from the forum with? that lead is safe in your mash?

Personally I think it's sort of irresponsible to even bring up the subject of battery acid... but that's just me.

Post by **Fourway** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:45 am

Let me clarify before you go off on me... I know you didn't "bring it up" what I mean is bring up battery acid in anything other than the direst warning terms...
at the point where you start saying "why not?" about clearly questionable matereals you are risking someone elses health.

possum · Post by **possum** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:48 am

Sure, it might stay in the boiler, but some people have mentioned using spent mash to dillute the final product.

Comercial bootleggers might not care about thier customers health.
But I'm not in that sort of league, I'm non comercial (drink it myself).
I use citrus products.

level Joe · Post by **level Joe** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:19 am

I wish I could say its funny, how some people will go out of there way to hurt themselves

The best you can say about them is;
You Dumbass?!

"It gives us the reputation of being a bunch of hillbillies, which isn't true," says Hapgood. "It does us a disservice."

I would have to agree with that statement. Im no hillbilly either.

stoker · Post by **stoker** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:24 am

fourway, I agree with what you said.
people scanning the forums might misinterpret in info, but that's so with every subject and any kind of medium(a).

but I think it's a good idea too to ponder about such things. these forums are not a handbook with do's and don't's . and it does not mean I will use it or advise anyone to do so

I don't like: "don't. why not?. because!", i believe thinking about things is never bad, it's just a pitty some might misinterpret it.

everyone who's scanning this topic, read this post!!

don't use batery acid, or anyting containing lead. and please don't scan, read!!

Post by **Fourway** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:54 pm

TRANSPLANTED HILLBILLY · Thu Jun 15, 2006 6:48 am

my how things evolve on this forum. I found the article to be interesting and thought id share it.

Logical thinking is a very powerful thing,and should be exercised frequently with this hobby.

Please see my signature.

and im not being an ass. It is ment to be taken with the utmost sincerity.

furball · Post by **furball** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:08 am

Hey Guy's, I just wanted to point out that Ian Smiliy's book mentions using sulphuric acid(H2SO4) as a method of decreasing the ph of the mash. Personnelly, I would rather stick with either citric acid or just use backset. I like trying to keep it as organic as I can.

Furball

Post by **Tater** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:23 am

Lets let this post get back to topic.Got to remember artical was written from laws point of view.

hornedrhodent · Post by **hornedrhodent** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:32 am

Better stop calling it 'battery acid ' and call it 'sulphuric acid' or 'H2SO4', then tell them you can buy it brand new, unused, from a battery shop.

Post by **theholymackerel** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:37 am

Or better yet, folks could simply not use H2SO4 in the makin' of booze.

I've never used it and have made booze likened to nectar.

What's the need?

copperhead · Post by **copperhead** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 5:40 pm

if my water was that far off i'd be looking for another water sorce.