Daylight savings problem (US people)

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Daylight savings problem (US people)

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Got up early this morning (5:30, just couldn't sleep any more).

Went on to my computer (which runs 24/7), and the time clock there said 4:30. I run 64 bit XP, fully patched, but my clock was set back. I installed "atomic clock sync", and it adjusted the time 1 hour 3 seconds. So it had the time right, but something had screwed up my system.

Did anyone else have a problem like this last night (probably only valid in the states, due to our idiots in congress that passed the changes to DST this year)?

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My computer is fine, but my sleep is sure screwed up.

Where do you get the atomic clock sync? My XP only has a web sync and a gov. sync that does not work.
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As-Ol-Joe wrote:My computer is fine, but my sleep is sure screwed up.

Where do you get the atomic clock sync? My XP only has a web sync and a gov. sync that does not work.
google "atomic clock sync". It will be on the first link. It is freeware, and works fine. I have used it for about 5 years now. It is written by worldtimeserver.com people.

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Not sure if it differs with different flavours of xp but in professional you can change the web sync address to anything you like. Do a search for public ntp servers. Your isp may also provide one.
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modul8 wrote:Not sure if it differs with different flavours of xp but in professional you can change the web sync address to anything you like. Do a search for public ntp servers. Your isp may also provide one.
I have never gotten the internet clock settings within XP to function correctly. That is why I use the atomic clock sync tray applet. It never fails.

It is likely that some other running tool set my clock (was not "fixed" for the DLST changes). I run several things which possibly could set the clock (apps to watch things (such as ebay snipers and such), real time gaming (poker and such), and some tools to perform tasks at certain times, plus many of the larger apps now have update "schedulers" that run). It could be that one of those things that "adjusted" the time for me. I run in admin mode, so any errant app would have rights to set the clock.

Also, I run XP64, and it could be an issue with that OS itself. I know almost no one running XP64. I do number crunching, so it fits that just fine (need the 64 bit mode of my Athlon).

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use "ntp.org" for your time settings. right click the date/time in the lower left corner then select "adjust date/time". The right tab will be "internet time", use ntp.org there.

If it doesn't work, you probably have to open port 123 in your firewall for, I believe, UDP traffic but you might as well open up TCP too to be sure.
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At work I can not, as there is a domain policy against internet time adjustments (not sure why, but there is, and I do not see an internet tab on the time setup).

At home, I have most ports locked down in the router. I really do not want to open anything on the router, that does not have to be done. The clocks drift only a few seconds a week, so I simply pop up atomic clock sync every once in a while.

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client-side risks of having port 123 open are pretty minimal. if you're running a server you can use tcp wrappers and allow only that port. most ntpd or xntpd implementations these days are well reviewed for security holes.
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Post by blanikdog »

Dunno about the time, but the extra hour of daylight sure fades the curtains. :(

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....and confuses all the cattle, they don't know when to come in for milking. :D :D
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Fades the cattle too, round here...
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Post by HookLine »

What's daylight saving?

(Can you tell I live in the tropics?)

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My atomic clocks have reset themselves back twice this savings time. Seems like someone is not on the same page. All the clocks in my house are set to within a fraction of a second of each other. The anomaly with the clocks was strange.

I dropped Atomic clock sync because the overhead was higher than my current sync.

In a corporate network setting the time is critical. It's pretty easy to corrupt data in a database if it thinks it's getting info from the future or the past. Transaction nightmare:)

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