malted barley

[gobbler777]

i came across a 50 pound bag of light golden brown malted barley, its ground to a fine powder, a buddy of mine works at a food processing plant and brought the bag home(it was a busted bag that was going to be sent to feed). My question is what would be a good recipe to incorporate this malted barley in? I have been running the ujsm recipe for about a few months now(10gal wash - 20 pounds corn, 15 pounds sugar) and was thinking maybe 30% of this malted barley and 70% corn to see if i got a better taste, any other suggestions for recipes using the malted barley that i have?

[Samohon]

Could try an all grain, aint done one myself yet but they say the produce is a lot better than using sugar.
I'd love to see what you come up with. The enzymes in the malted barley remember will convert starches in other grains to sugars.
Try the Mashing and Fermenting / Tried and True Recipes for Ideas, an keep us posted man...

[Dnderhead]

yes you can do that,of coarse it will alter the flavor,and it will convert some of the corn/maze to sugars tho not as efficient as cooking.
as for other recipes most all grain recipes have barley malt for conversion.
from all barley witch would be a Irish-with a little smoke scotch.
just cook 51% or more of whatever,add malt, and that is what you call it.

[Tater]

Id be awful tempted to do a all barley malt mash

[Samohon]

Id be awful tempted to do a all barley malt mash

+1 Tater, I'd be away to my favourite feed store buying the barley... Maybe have a go next month with a small 5 Gal batch...

[rubber duck]

+2

Do a little reading on starch conversion and all grain.

[gobbler777]

i tried doing an all grain a couple of months ago, with dnderheads help, but i think i miay have been in alittle over my head with trying an all corn conversion on my first all grain attemp, i boiled the corn the at over 200 f for bout a hour then i let it sit at 160 for about 4 hours and only ended up with a 3% reading with my hydrometer? I have read alot of post where people have said "i used malted barley when cooking my grains and the malt helped it convert easily" so i thought maybe the malted barley could help me convert my corn alittle better since 'corn whiskey' is what im after. Dnderhead or Rubberduck do either of you guys have any other tips that can help me with my conversion and how much corn and malt i should use for a 10gal wash? In the mean time i will look up an all malted barley wash and see if its something i may be intrested in.

[Dnderhead]

first for each LB of grain per gal,with good grain/conversion,you should git about 3% alcohol,the type of grain will make some difference but that is in the ball park,when cooking add some malt this will help keep it from getting so thick.(i use about 20% malt total,and use a handful at a time in cook) 160f for conversion is a bit high in my book,150f is what i try for. stir while doing so..a ph of 4.5 will also help.

all malt is very easy to do, just add hot water (about 160f by the time it is mixed with grain it should be about 150f)to crushed malt,keep it stird,let it cool 80f- and pitch yeast.

( the pore conversion mite be due to old malt,once crushed/ground it deteriorates fast.also heat will hurry deteriorating along)in that case Id make a all malt.or use as a adjacent)

[gobbler777]

so the 3% coversion i got when i cooked my mash the last time was good? lol i guess thats a good learning expeirnce cause i got pissed thinking i didnt do it right and threw it out and just started a new ujsm mash. This is what i have planned for when i try to do my all grain.

20 pounds of corn put in 5 gal of water boil at over 200 f for bout a hour

then back it down to bout 150 add in a handful at time of malt and let it cook for 2-3 hours - stir the hell out of it

then put it in the fermenter and top with fresh water to make a 10gal mash

will this work out or is there something else i need to do to get a good conversion

-gobbler

[Dnderhead]

Don't remember your recipe, but grain is about 1/2 what sugar is i guess that is the way to put it or it takes about 2X the grain as it does sugar?
so for each lb. of grain per gal you will should git 3% alcohol (this varies with grain and type)
as with sugar you git about 6%. both of these can very with it was to start with.(was it corn syrup,can juice,raw sugar,molasses,etc. now grain is the same way different grains have different amount of starches,take corn for instance, white* , southwestern and indian maze/corn ( used in flour)has a bit more starch than that witch is used for feed.as most feeds are rated by how much protein they contain so most has been bread that way.

but even so if you can buy grain at less than 1/2 that of sugar your money ahead.
*some white corn is also high in protein.

[gobbler777]

im going to be using cracked corn thats about the only thing i can find as far as corn goes, so i guess im going to try to
this 20#s of cracked corn and 4 pounds of malt for a 10 gal wash and see how it does