Weight and Volume Grains

[Skiipy]

Hello to All,
I'll try my best to compact this question as much as possible. I've switched to all grain mashes/washes using fly sparging to rinse the grains. I'm having a real tough time finding the calcs that I need ( on the parent site ) to make my original grain bill. Here goes, I''m making a 10 gal. wash at 14% ABV ( that being the max that bakers yeast will produce ) using a bill of 80% cracked corn, 12% 2 or 6 row barley ( have both ) and 8% rye. I need to know how much in lbs. of total grains, I need to use, and just what my target SG should be. I don't want to use any sugar if at all possible. Any help given will be greatley appreciated.

Thanks,
Skiipy

[Dnderhead]

http://homedistiller.org/grain/yield/typical" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

[Skiipy]

Hey Dunderhead,
Thanks for the link, have read this section over and over, and still can't figure out the calculation. Don't seem to be retaining what I'm reading I guess.
If you or someone could tell me the total pounds needed for all three grains combined, I'm sure that I could go in reverse to figure out the calcs in the future.
ie: give me the answer and let me figure out the math problem. Thanks again !!

Skiipy

[Dnderhead]

how about using somthing like this?
http://beercalculus.hopville.com/recipe" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

[Prairiepiss]

I think 14% is really high for a AG. When most get around 6% and are happy. Not saying it can't be done. Just pointing out you may need to set your sights a little lower. And forget about the greed part. You will get a much better product going lower. Just saying.

[Dnderhead]

I thank 14% can be done but i whould not attempt when making one mash.
by the time you use enough water to rinse/sparg the grains you have diluted beer.

[Skiipy]

Dunderhead,
Great site, played with it but can't find the results that I'm looking for. Guess I've got some type of study overload going on. I'll try a 30lb. total @ 24lbs. cracked corn, 3lb 10oz. barley, and 2lb. 7oz. rye. Using a dry activated bakers yeast how much yeast should I use and will I have to add sugar to get to an ABV of 14%. Sorry if I'm becomeing a pain.
By the way, I'm using a 13 gal. stainless boiler,3" by 16" column, and a 28" leibeg condenser with a 5000 watt adjustable internal element.
Just trying to get this rite the first time, and not trying to be greedy.

Skiipy

[Prairiepiss]

Sory skippy but have you done an AG mash before? And why are you wanting to make such a high ABV?

[Skiipy]

Hey PrairePiss,
Thanks for the info, guess I'm overshooting a feisable target. Not trying to be greedy just trying to be on the mark the first time. The parent site said that using bakers yeast the max ABV could be as high as 14%. Guess I'm not in the know enough, lot of learnig yet to get.

[Skiipy]

Prariepiss,
Oh ya, have done AGs before but always on the grain. Had a neighbor come over (brewmaster) with his equiptment and teach me the fly sparging tech. I just thought that he might have been using more grain than what was needed. So I came tyo you guys for more info. In my case, Sparging is a much easier clean up than on the grain. And I'm told its more efficent.

[Prairiepiss]

By no means am I a AG expert. Not even close. But I know enough to say you are setting yourself up for disappointment.

First off yes bread yeast will work on a 14% ABV mash. But that is the upper limit. Most like to keep it between 10% and 12% for sugarheads and partial mashes.(ag with sugar added). 6% to 10% is good for AG mashes. Some first timers are happy to get 4% to 6% on their first go. I know I was.

14% for your first AG mash just isn't a good idea in my opinion. And trying to make a new recipe doing it. Is even worse. Your percentages are off for the malt needed.

I would suggest using NChooch's Carolina Bourbon recipe. It's a proven recipe that will help you learn. And still get respectable results. If you really want to you can add sugar to it to raise the ABV.
http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 14&t=17750

Sory not trying to put you down or anything. I would just rather see you succeed with your first AG. Then get discouraged and give up. And that's a lot of grain to just waist if it doesn't work out like you want.

Just my two nickles. Take as you will.

Sory posting as you were. As I took your first answer as it would be your first AG.
So I guess disregard this post. But I already typed it out. And it may help others reading this.

[Dnderhead]

any AG you do your going to need a lot more malt than that..about 20% of grain.
this depends on malt your using.