Welp, I did my "sweet" run on the flakes with good success. Sort of sweet run I guess. It had about 2 gal of backset in a 12 gal wash. I did a short tower 1/2 reflux run with feints added and was pleased with the product (90%) output with good sweet corn flavor.
Now to the experimation. The damn store was totally out of cornflakes!(must be some HD members locally I am unaware of ) So I am trying this sort of like an UJSSM and recylcing the flakes. Left the leis on the bottom of the fermenter (which was still popping the burp tube about once every 20sec or so). Dissolved aprox 12lbs of sugar in backset and added 7gal cold h20 and 3.5 gal backset/sugar solution. Yeasties woke up and it took off like a rocket. Bubbling away as fast or faster than the original wash. In the UJSSM mathod the corn is used agin and again until it is "spent". I don't know if the flakes will still have flavor in them or what the hell the outcome will be but we shall see.... To be Cont....
scrap wrote:So I am trying this sort of like an UJSSM and recylcing the flakes. Left the leis on the bottom of the fermenter (which was still popping the burp tube about once every 20sec or so).
I'm thinking of doing this, got myself some cheap cornflakes but they seem to have enough vits and mins in them for the yeast to take. I didn't get that much with my first try so this would be a good way of getting a second wash without the cost of buying more cornflakes. Odin, any thoughts?
I ran the UJSSM in boiler with CF in the thumper. came out AWASOME! 12 gallons in the boiler and 5 in thumper. Got 3 gallons which should cut down to 2 pretty good stuff. the corn flavor came through as strong as any AG corn I have done. can't wait to put some on oak and wait for the real goodness to come out in it.
Second Gen with "recycled" flakes is coming to a finish now. I expect ebullition to slow to a crawl in the next day. This mash is very "White" in color compaired to first gen. I will let her clear a few days then run her this weekend.
"This mash is very "White" in color compaired to first gen."
its probably gluten.gluten is not water solvable so will separate out.
"corn flakes" is ground corn/ground malt and is "stuck"together and roiled into flakes and then toasted.the "glue" that holds this all together is gluten..
Thanks Dnder. It has finished fermenting and is clearing (sort of) now. I'm going to try to run it with some UJSSM faints in 1/2 reflux mode this weekend and see what I get. First batch oaked was fine sippin
My second ferment is done and cleared. Have just about 3.8 gallons starting w/4 gallons of water and 1 gallon of backset, 7 lbs of sugar and 2 boxes of flakes. Will test FG in the morning and run this baby. More infor to follow tomorrow. Thanks again to Odin.
Have read this entire thread minus a couple.. but I amd about to begun a mash with this.. I have 2 big box's of corn flakes thinking about an additional one though... my question is... if I start the mash today its 5 - 7 days to ferment.. couple days to clear in a separate vessel..
where do you store your mash to clear? and how long can you wait to run it? I will be out of town next weekend so it would likely be on or about the 7th of sep before I can run it... Any issues with doing this? im shooting for a 12 gallon mash in my 15 gallon pot (nixon stone reflux still) will run open very little packing and completely unequalized for flavor(this works nicely for me)
Thanks Odin for this great recipe... can wait to taste it.. my son has a 2 liter oak keg that was given to him I want to fill it up for him to age....
Never used one. So I would be guessing to say 6 months or so. But there are quite a few good reads around here about small barrels. Don of the discussions about them may be in a thread or two about oak aging. But those threads will contain a lot of good info anyway. So it wouldn't hurt to read them too.
setup 2 6 gallon mash's of this this evening.. they are both still too hot to pitch the yeast... But the first one went perfectly just waiting to pitch the yeast and get it going.. the second one the flakes stuck and almost burned but didnt... but it has a nice toasted smell im very interested in seeing how the second one turns out over the first one. I should be able to pitch the yeast in the AM with no issues correct?
Thanks again thats What I thought.. still have a half hour or so before bed will check and if still above 90 will go to bed and do it first thing in the morning.
Pitched the yeast this am the temp was at 86 degrees will see how things go. the second cooking still smells a lot better than the first.. and its the one that stuck and almost burnt... Will know before too much longer on how they taste.. Im going to run them separately and use backset from the first for the second run...
Skyraider2012 wrote:Thanks again thats What I thought.. still have a half hour or so before bed will check and if still above 90 will go to bed and do it first thing in the morning.
Just checked the ferment... its bubblin away looking great so far. the temp on both are about 87 degrees and the 2nd one smells amazing still.. im anxious to try it.
Got a stripping run of cornflakes whiskey on the go and will hopefully put through Odin's Easy Gin as well. Need to replenish stocks and save up some stuff for the winter months
Skyraider2012 wrote:recycled cornflake? how did you do this?
Thanks
Took the first lot off and recharged with water and sugar, aerated and I'm letting it ferment out. Seems to be going rather slowly at the moment, think it may be a tad too cold
It is an experiment like scrap tried out a few previous posts.
Been to the shop and saw cornflakes by kelloggs but being tight like I am they had their own brand. Here are some pics of the packaging and the price was 31p a packet of 500g. I will see what they are like at 750g if its not very good will just keep upping it to maybe 1kg next time. at that price it is very cheap
Did my cuts run a couple of days ago with 1Kg of brand own supermarket cornflakes after doing the stripping run and I found that I was able to go into tails quite deeply, I found that the tails had more of a cornflake taste than the hearts, currently ageing 1ltr on 10gms of Jack chips. I wonder if anyone else has found this?
As an aside, my recycled wash is still fermenting away quite slowly, I don't think that I will bother with it again because it's taking too much time but it will be interesting to try as a white dog.