Maximum boiler size for hobby???

[wv_cooker]

When, or if, the government decides they want to legalize this hobby, they're not going to search the internet to see what kind of limits they want to impose on hobbyists. They're not gonna see what some internet reporter wrote about it. They're going to do their research, sponsor studies, nail down just how much alcohol an average drinker might be drinking, family size, how many people are in the family that drinks, etc...etc... A whole slew of variables will be considered.....i would not expect senators and representatives to be reading the HD site determining limits from it. I would be surprised to learn that they even knew about the site.

Oh don't ever be fooled into thinking they don't know about us, and all the other sites out there. When they figure out how to profit from us and keep the $13 tax or whatever it is from the commercial guy's. It will become legal and especially when one side or the other decides they need votes. Until then they could give a shit less about us.

[S-Cackalacky]

Naw whats being decided is what size can be posted on open forums about.Not removing members who have larger but keeping it off open forums. We don't care what size your willing to take a chance with.We hope someday to see home distilling legal.Like beer and wine there will be guide lines.If it happens there will either be a set still size or a limit to amount of alcohol or both. My personal 2 cents would be 15 to 30 gallon max still size and wash /mash no more the the state in question allows for beer or wine.

Did anyone else read this!? Nobody is trying to tell you what to do - how big your still should be or how much drink to make. What Tater is talking about and the point that I don't seem to be getting across is - do what you want, but just don't post anything about it HERE if it's more than such-or-such size limit.

S-C

[S-Cackalacky]

Hey leave my flow rate out of it.

Sorry Mr. Piss, didn't mean to get personal.

Just sayin',
S-C

[S-Cackalacky]

When, or if, the government decides they want to legalize this hobby, they're not going to search the internet to see what kind of limits they want to impose on hobbyists. They're not gonna see what some internet reporter wrote about it. They're going to do their research, sponsor studies, nail down just how much alcohol an average drinker might be drinking, family size, how many people are in the family that drinks, etc...etc... A whole slew of variables will be considered.....i would not expect senators and representatives to be reading the HD site determining limits from it. I would be surprised to learn that they even knew about the site.

The only studies they'll do are polls of the voting public. And those voters will be guided by what they see on the evening news. And the evening news will get whatever information they care to pass on to the voting public from the easiest source available, whether it be truth or myth. Sometimes they get it right and more often than not they seem to get it wrong - depends on what hits they get on Google.

Just sayin',
S-C

[Mazriam]

When, or if, the government decides they want to legalize this hobby, they're not going to search the internet to see what kind of limits they want to impose on hobbyists. They're not gonna see what some internet reporter wrote about it. They're going to do their research, sponsor studies, nail down just how much alcohol an average drinker might be drinking, family size, how many people are in the family that drinks, etc...etc... A whole slew of variables will be considered.....i would not expect senators and representatives to be reading the HD site determining limits from it. I would be surprised to learn that they even knew about the site.

The only studies they'll do are polls of the voting public. And those voters will be guided by what they see on the evening news. And the evening news will get whatever information they care to pass on to the voting public from the easiest source available, whether it be truth or myth. Sometimes they get it right and more often than not they seem to get it wrong - depends on what hits they get on Google.

Just sayin',
S-C

i seriously, doubt that....

[goose eye]

yup more like tom boggs jr or martin gold or thems that do run Washington what it gonna take


so im tole

[Odin]

I'd say 50 liters (13 gallons) would be appropriate for home distilling.

Odin.

[Mazriam]

I'd say 50 liters (13 gallons) would be appropriate for home distilling.

Odin.

per day? week? month? year?

earlier in the thread, i made reference to what the maximum, per year, would be if they extrapolated the numbers from the amount of wine you can legally make....which would come out to 24 gallons of 200 proof. (assuming the average bottle of wine is 12%)

[S-Cackalacky]

When, or if, the government decides they want to legalize this hobby, they're not going to search the internet to see what kind of limits they want to impose on hobbyists. They're not gonna see what some internet reporter wrote about it. They're going to do their research, sponsor studies, nail down just how much alcohol an average drinker might be drinking, family size, how many people are in the family that drinks, etc...etc... A whole slew of variables will be considered.....i would not expect senators and representatives to be reading the HD site determining limits from it. I would be surprised to learn that they even knew about the site.

The only studies they'll do are polls of the voting public. And those voters will be guided by what they see on the evening news. And the evening news will get whatever information they care to pass on to the voting public from the easiest source available, whether it be truth or myth. Sometimes they get it right and more often than not they seem to get it wrong - depends on what hits they get on Google.

Just sayin',
S-C

i seriously, doubt that....

Seriously doubt what - that the media holds sway over public opinion, or that politicians are swayed by votes? Or, maybe that the nightly news princess isn't out there verifying everything she robotically reads from a teleprompter. Most background information on a story comes from a recent college grad sitting at a computer in the back room. What, do you think they actually go out and interview real experts? Believe me, I've known TV news people and I can tell you, some of them are bigger idiots than some of the people sitting on the other side of the screen.

Just sayin',
S-C

[Mazriam]

I seriously doubt that lawmakers would ask the public, or garner the publics opinion on what would constitute a good legal limit.

[S-Cackalacky]

I seriously doubt that lawmakers would ask the public, or garner the publics opinion on what would constitute a good legal limit.

You're right. But, limits would be something completely arbitrary - just like for beer and wine. It means nothing because it would probably be near impossible to enforce. Have you ever heard of anyone being arrested for making too much beer? It's just there to make the politician appear to be a responsible legislator and to tell the hobbyist, "Hey, we're ok with this, but you should exercise some reasonable restraint.".

And, that said, it's the whole point of what we're discussing - setting limits on what can be POSTED here on HD to make us appear to be responsible distillers. That's NOT to say that if and when legalization ever happens, whatever limits are set by the law won't be fudged now and then. The point isn't to influence the legislation, but to influence the legalization.

Just sayin',
S-C

[guittarmaster]

Personally I think if the feds were to decriminalize home distillation they would probably look at data from New Zealand and Missouri. After all Missouri Law states:

311.055. No person at least twenty-one years of age shall be required to obtain a license to manufacture intoxicating liquor, as defined in section 311.020, for personal or family use. The aggregate amount of intoxicating liquor manufactured per household shall not exceed two hundred gallons per calendar year if there are two or more persons over the age of twenty-one years in such household, or one hundred gallons per calendar year if there is only one person over the age of twenty-one years in such household.

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311.020. The term "intoxicating liquor" as used in this chapter shall mean and include alcohol for beverage purposes, alcoholic, spirituous, vinous, fermented, malt, or other liquors, or combination of liquors, a part of which is spirituous, vinous, or fermented, and all preparations or mixtures for beverage purposes, containing in excess of one-half of one percent by volume. All beverages having an alcoholic content of less than one-half of one percent by volume shall be exempt from the provisions of this chapter, but subject to inspection as provided by sections 196.365 to 196.445*.

But then again ask people living in colorado and california about how confident they feel with their medicinal marajuana since both legalities are trumped by federal prohibition.