sweetfeed whisky

[Richard7]

Howdy Wise Distillers.

I was given a bag of ProForm Horse feed, and was told it wwas sweet feed.

Right away I thought of this thread/recipie.

Has anyone used this brand before? Had any success?


Thank for the help,

BD

Is it pellets or grains?

[S-Cackalacky]

Now, after doing my 3rd generation run, what I plan to do is remove enough backset to start my 4th gen ferment and use what backset that remains in the boiler to dilute the alcohol going into the spirit run. My assumption here is that the backset will impart a little of its flavor into the spirit run.
S-C

in a similar note to what you mentioned, but not the same...

i didnt add anything to the wash for the spirit run, but, after i used the backwash to melt my sugar, molasses and brown sugar, i saved some of the left over from the boiler in a jar, I just hate dumping this stuff...

and last night when i was diluting down some straight 178 proof to drinking strength, i mixed a splash from quart #4 of a stripping run that was good flavored, and also a bit of the left over from the boiler that i saved... I just added till it was a light yellow color, and the flavor was awesome gave it a full body, warm sweetness ...

i was inspired by i believe by (forgive me if i am wrong) bucaneer bob who said the key to good rum flavor is a little of the dunder added to the spirit. even my buddy who prefers white whiskey with koolade liked it haha so i will mix a little larger batch for a serious evaluation... this morning no hangover... good sign. this is my 8th generation

Sounds interesting. I might try that with a pint or so of the white I get from my spirit run. How much do you think - maybe a couple of tablespoons to a pint?

Thanks,
S-C

[Rastus]

several TBS.... i diluted to about 35-40 percentand then added the left over boiled out wash till it tasted interestinghas a nice sweetness with a tang.
last night i tried it again but went a little too light . i guess experimenting is the key...

so being the last day of the weekend i did a small sample, this time mixing a little stronger. i like the way it hits the taste buds in the back of the mouth and the after taste is nice also... a nice alternative to oaked. and the tang seems to balance out the sweetness of the straight sweetfeed in the white...

i might add i have been adding much more molasses and brown sugar 4 pounds of each and 4 pounds pound of white cane sugar to the 6 gallons i pull for a run from a 12 gallon pail that has the feed in the bottom. ( i only siphon to the level of the grain)

I am going to play with it a bit, see if it proves out as a total keeper... but second round produced no hangover again

good luck

[shadylane]

At Tractor Supply the Producer's Pride "10% All Grain" and "All Grain" are the same product. The specification tags are identical except for the list of ingredients. The "10% All Grain" lists corn, oats, barley (cob) as indgredients, whereas the "All Grain" lists "grain products" as ingredients. Don't know why they do this, but appears to be the same product.

At other feed stores, you might also ask for "wet cob". Some stores just don't know it by the name, Sweet Feed.

Just sayin',
S-C

My local Tractor Supply no longer has Producer's Pride 10% all grain. It's still called all grain but doesn't have barley in it. They changed on us.

[Still Water]

Well I have done two generations of this so far 20 gallons each. Four striping runs and two spirit runs.

I combined the two spirit runs after airing out and cuts, dilluted to 60% ABV kept some white, put some on cherry and some on oak. Got about 4-1/2 gallons final product.

So far very happy, it seemed a little rough around the edges on day one but seems to keep getting better and better as the days go on.



Cheers

[S-Cackalacky]

At Tractor Supply the Producer's Pride "10% All Grain" and "All Grain" are the same product. The specification tags are identical except for the list of ingredients. The "10% All Grain" lists corn, oats, barley (cob) as indgredients, whereas the "All Grain" lists "grain products" as ingredients. Don't know why they do this, but appears to be the same product.

At other feed stores, you might also ask for "wet cob". Some stores just don't know it by the name, Sweet Feed.

Just sayin',
S-C

My local Tractor Supply no longer has Producer's Pride 10% all grain. It's still called all grain but doesn't have barley in it. They changed on us.

I'll take a look at what I have left. When I first bought it, I looked at it pretty carefully and thought I saw two different grains besides the cracked corn. I'm not sure I really know what barley grain looks like. I know there must be a reason why they changed the label to read "grain products" - maybe so they can vary what they put in it. You might get one thing in one bag and something else in another.

Just sayin',
S-C

[Still Water]

At Tractor Supply the Producer's Pride "10% All Grain" and "All Grain" are the same product. The specification tags are identical except for the list of ingredients. The "10% All Grain" lists corn, oats, barley (cob) as indgredients, whereas the "All Grain" lists "grain products" as ingredients. Don't know why they do this, but appears to be the same product.

At other feed stores, you might also ask for "wet cob". Some stores just don't know it by the name, Sweet Feed.

Just sayin',
S-C

My local Tractor Supply no longer has Producer's Pride 10% all grain. It's still called all grain but doesn't have barley in it. They changed on us.

I'll take a look at what I have left. When I first bought it, I looked at it pretty carefully and thought I saw two different grains besides the cracked corn. I'm not sure I really know what barley grain looks like. I know there must be a reason why they changed the label to read "grain products" - maybe so they can vary what they put in it. You might get one thing in one bag and something else in another.

Just sayin',
S-C

The bags I got a few weeks ago said all grain and they have barley in them??

[redneckgeek]

I just finished running two 5 gallon washes of this.. Wow it came out pretty good.

I am running a pot still, I am new so bare with me. I ended up with about 1.25 gallons of good usable product. Strongest was right at 120 proof, weakest 40 proof. Since I am new I collected everything at 200ml sections. Boy it took a lot of jars but was worth it. Threw the first 200 out and aired the rest over night. Started in the middle and kept everything I liked from the middle out both directions and mixed it all together end product was just over 100 proof. (Single pass from the pot still). I took about 1.5 quarts of the tails and heads from the first run and mixed it with the second run...Excellent. Have a little over 2 quarts to add to the next run. (Maybe someone can look at my above numbers and see if it sounds inline with what is expected from this wash).

The sweet feed I got had no pellets, was Oats, Cracked corn, Whole Corn, and Molasses. plus all the other stuff on the bag.
$19 a 50# bag.
Let it sit 2 weeks.

It made some of the damn best Apple Pie I have ever had

The smell on the clear is little sweet, goes in smooth then kicks you just right.

[Prairiepiss]

Congrats. On the numbers. You get what you get. Don't worry much about the numbers. If you are liking the product. That's all that counts. After you learn to really drive that still. Then you mite look at the numbers. But even then. If you like what you are getting. Who cares about the numbers.

[Jimbo]

For what its worth, if you stripped everything right into a big jug first. Then watered it down to below 40% and ran it again, you might could stretch your yield a little, since it will clean up by running it again.

But like P says, if you like it, all's well and why bother, and your feints will get run again next time, so they're not really lost.

[redneckgeek]

For what its worth, if you stripped everything right into a big jug first. Then watered it down to below 40% and ran it again, you might could stretch your yield a little, since it will clean up by running it again.

But like P says, if you like it, all's well and why bother, and your feints will get run again next time, so they're not really lost.

I only had 10 gallons and figured it would be another 2 weeks to get enough together to run again so, I ran it on a very slow drip and tried my best to make good cuts. I was extremely happy with the outcome. I used about 3/4 of it to make Applie pie and Lemonade, wife just finished a few glass of Half Lemonade and sweet tea and well she approves...lol So I am golden.

I am going to run it twice next time to see how high I can get the proof up.

Just for the record I had a Qt of Store bought Apple pie, after tasting mine and theirs side by side theirs went away...lol Sweet feed I think added excellent flavor.

[1131morg]

I have a local feed mill that will mix anything i want. I read that buying it already bagged that there should be everything I need in it, therefore no other nutrients are necessary as the recipes says. But since i am mixing my own should I consider some additives? I am picking up 30% cracked corn, 30% oats, 30% barley, and 10% mollasses. No other minerals, salt, etc. What else would I need or is this good?

[Stainless dude]

You should be good with that mix and should ferment out fine, but it wouldn't hurt to add some nutes in my humble opinion..

[1131morg]

What kind of nutrients and roughly how much would you suggest? I'm fermenting in 20 gal. batches

[Richard7]

I like tomato paste. 2 small 6oz cans will work on a 20 gallon batch. Yeast love it and it will not carry over flavor even it it sounds like your making ketchup!
Super easy to find, natural, my yeast love it, works for me.

[Truckinbutch]

I've been getting along well with that mix . I like Richard's idea on adding some extra nutrients . I'm gonna try that in my next 40 gallon ferment .

[woodshed]

So I was planning on taking a day off from the distillery. Been on 9 days 10 hours a day.
But curiosity and passion got the best of me and ended up making my first SF.
What I did.
12 gals. total
20 lbs. sweet feed
20 lbs. plain sugar
1/2 gal Bentfinger wort
1/2 gal Bentfinger backset

Boiled 4 gals water then added with backset to SF and sugar. Set outside to cool to 150F then added
1/2 gal wort. Hoping the few remaining enzymes would help with starch conversion. Figured it couldn't hurt and had a few jars around. At the very least it adds consistency to product.

Let temp drop to 140F then topped off with cool water to 90F. Aerated which brought temp to 84F.
Can of tomato paste.
Pitched 12 grams Superstart. OG 1.090. Really high for me. Gonna stretch the ferment for as long as I can.

I'm pretty excited. Not about the OG. It is what it is. Been doing AG for along time now. Good to break out of routine. From what I have read it makes a fine drink.

[S-Cackalacky]

Bout time you wuz makin' some real likker.

Kidding aside, just seems a little unusual hearing about a professional distiller making a sugar head. Good stuff - that sweet feed.

Just sayin',
S-C

[woodshed]

I use SF on a regular basis but typically in small amounts. Made me get back in touch with my roots and leads to a better understanding of a large percentage of those who contribute here and what they are achieving. These people, you included, are the most vibrant and active minds in distilling. Other sites aren't even close. Your never beyond learning. I'll pay taxes on it but figure it's worth it.

[Jasonr]

http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/p ... feed-50-lb" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Is this the stuff to use guys? Because that says pellet and grains.
I'd like to try something other than corn for once hahah.

[Prairiepiss]

Let's see its posted many times over in this thread not to use sweetfeed with pellets. So no its not what you want.

[S-Cackalacky]

http://www.tractorsupply.com/en/store/p ... feed-50-lb

Is this the stuff to use guys? Because that says pellet and grains.
I'd like to try something other than corn for once hahah.

There was some discussion about this just a page or two back in this thread.

S-C

[Jasonr]

I've only gotten to page 22 so far tonight lol.
I did find the all grain though.
Thanks guys.

[Jasonr]

I'm starting my first wash with this as we speak. Temp is 115 and SG is 1.060. Waiting till 90* to pitch yeast and see what happens.

[redneckgeek]

I'm starting my first wash with this as we speak. Temp is 115 and SG is 1.060. Waiting till 90* to pitch yeast and see what happens.

I am on my 4th set of this all came out right to 1.060 and finished right at 0.990 in about 8 days. Each set I run is (2) 5 gallon batches. I don't find it to be the best stuff to drink straight, but it is excellent for making other types of drinks.

[Jasonr]

After 5 hours it's off bubbling nonstop. I have a hose run from the bucket to a 2lt. bottle half full of water as my airlock.
Can her it working in the bucket foaming sounds like a hot frying pan.

I usually mix all my likker into apple, peach, lemonade or key lime so either way, it's gonna be consumed

[Loganmeister]

Well, I started this hobby to just make xmas presents of Apple Pie Shine and I found a new passion. I'm new guys to the hobby, this is my second post on here and I'm a noob so bare with me here guys.
wow. 192 pages. I can't say I read all of it but I have learned a lot. I need to read more about generations as I have been doing my SF runs a little different or should I say way different and not as effective. I have distilled 4 5 gallon runs to learn before joining the forum. Got the process off the net and the taste of the hearts is PERFECT!!!! And I can still see. (yes I am using SS and copper.) but it will be even better now that I will be keeping the grains in the ferment buckets for the ferment process I am sure.

With my process I cooked my mash (sweet feed COB) at 150 degrees then strained it, cooled it to 90 degrees, pitched my yeast and fermented for about 6 days. I then stripped it down to 20 proof and I'm ready for the second distill when I get 4 gallons and then I will do my cuts from there. In the process of learning, I guess I skipped the section on generations. I have been feeding the left over grains from the mash to the neighbors goats and ummmmm........putting the left overs from the ferment and the distillation process...............ummmm down the toilet. Then I start all over from scratch. Oh and did I mention I even forgot what these parts are called.

Off to learn about generations and basic terms...........and I will give this cook process a go............wow I have so much to learn but...........I love the taste and am so excited to be learning a new hobby. The hearts taste so sweet and smooth and mixed with a apple pie recipe...........WOW!

[Loganmeister]

You should be good with that mix and should ferment out fine, but it wouldn't hurt to add some nutes in my humble opinion..

Just wondering umm.............what is a nute..........oh.......nutrients.........it just hit me. lol I have to stop sippin.....

[redneckgeek]

Well, I started this hobby to just make xmas presents of Apple Pie Shine and I found a new passion. I'm new guys to the hobby, this is my second post on here and I'm a noob so bare with me here guys.
wow. 192 pages. I can't say I read all of it but I have learned a lot. I need to read more about generations as I have been doing my SF runs a little different or should I say way different and not as effective. I have distilled 4 5 gallon runs to learn before joining the forum. Got the process off the net and the taste of the hearts is PERFECT!!!! And I can still see. (yes I am using SS and copper.) but it will be even better now that I will be keeping the grains in the ferment buckets for the ferment process I am sure.

With my process I cooked my mash (sweet feed COB) at 150 degrees then strained it, cooled it to 90 degrees, pitched my yeast and fermented for about 6 days. I then stripped it down to 20 proof and I'm ready for the second distill when I get 4 gallons and then I will do my cuts from there. In the process of learning, I guess I skipped the section on generations. I have been feeding the left over grains from the mash to the neighbors goats and ummmmm........putting the left overs from the ferment and the distillation process...............ummmm down the toilet. Then I start all over from scratch. Oh and did I mention I even forgot what these parts are called.

Off to learn about generations and basic terms...........and I will give this cook process a go............wow I have so much to learn but...........I love the taste and am so excited to be learning a new hobby. The hearts taste so sweet and smooth and mixed with a apple pie recipe...........WOW!

I am rather new as well, so I understand where you are coming from. I personally am not running generations from this recipe like some are. I might read some more on it. But the way I see it if I do it all exactly the same every time it should always come out exactly the same every time maybe minor differences. When you start messing with generations your flavors will start changing from what I read and you get into some real chemistry with PH balance and stuff. (call me crazy but as a hobby that is a lot of extra work...lol)

[Spokerider]

Just starting my 1st mash of COB sweet feed.
Although I have not read all 194 pages, it appears there is little discussion on starting PH. My wash is at 5.0 without any PH adjustment. Is this OK?

For my BW's wash, I adjust the starting PH to 4.0 and try to keep it there for the duration of the fermentation.......it works well.

Thanks for your thoughts.