Next harvest I want to ferment some apples and grapes and make cognac and calvados out of it.
I was wondering what kind of barrelsI should use for that. French oak obviously, but with a char, toast or just plain wood.
Does anybody know how the french use to do it?
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Re: aging cognac
European oak, toast, but no char.
Some links with good info and pictures:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... -chile.png" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
http://woodenbarrelwarehouse.com/cooper ... el-making/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
http://wineandbarrels.com/gb/category/t ... arrels-34/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Some links with good info and pictures:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... -chile.png" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
http://woodenbarrelwarehouse.com/cooper ... el-making/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
http://wineandbarrels.com/gb/category/t ... arrels-34/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
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Re: aging cognac
I'm going to keep posting this link everywhere
http://www.pediacognac.com/en/le-vieill ... lissement/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
http://www.pediacognac.com/en/le-vieill ... lissement/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
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Excellent link. Thank you MDH!
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Re: aging cognac
Thank you. Those are some very helpfull links.
Although I still can’t find the right kind of toast that is used for cognac. Heavy or light toast, it doesn’t say…

Although I still can’t find the right kind of toast that is used for cognac. Heavy or light toast, it doesn’t say…
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I personally would choose a middle ground beneath medium and dark.
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Nice. Thanks, MDH.
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Re: aging cognac
And it takes a new barrel with that toast to make it I presume?MDH wrote:I personally would choose a middle ground beneath medium and dark.
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Re: aging cognac
As mentioned in PediaCognac, yes, new French barrels... Unlike charred barrels you cannot retoast as easily because you are working with darkened oak that still has integrity. With charcoal you can scrape it away to rechar for second use.
In Cognac, the barrel size matters. They will move it from small barrels to larger and then to demijons to stop the oak from overriding the subtle flavors of the grapes.
In Cognac, the barrel size matters. They will move it from small barrels to larger and then to demijons to stop the oak from overriding the subtle flavors of the grapes.
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Re: aging cognac
Again im always learning something new here. carry on