Enzymes and protocol

[tuckaloe]

Apologies to the OP, it seems clear to me I need a protocol thread on how to use a pH meter.

[moosemilk]

1. Sebstar HTL and Sebamyl GL
2. From Hamilton Hops
3. Boil water and some backset. Add In grains. Bring back up to 200F. Let sit several hours insulated. Add sebstar HTL when temp is 185F. Set several hours insulated, mixing every half hour. When temp is 150F, add sebamyl GL and any malts if using, adjust pH with backset. Keep at 148, insulated, overnight. Even after 8 hours I have to cool to 80 with big ass fan or immerse in tub of cold water. Use some of it for yeast starter, then pitch.

[HDNB]

1. Sebstar HTL and Sebamyl GL
2. local wine store
3. Best result so far: 20LBS C75% coarse crack, O12.5% fine, B12.5%fine add :5 Lbs malt 2 row medium grind.
boil 25L add to grain, keep on hotplate for 1/2 hr. while boiling another 20L... add to mix.
heat on plate to target temp 195-200 stirring regular for approx another 2.5hr
allow natural cool (stirring) to 190 add 1/2 dose HTL, allow cool to (stirring)185 add other 1/2 dose
allow natural cool (occasional stir) 165-170 then add approx 5L backset to lower PH and cool to 148*
add amylGL and wrap up for overnight
strain with cencracked corntrifuge
add 1 Tbsp Oystershell to fermenter
ferment with bakers.

[freshwaterjellyfish]

[quote="tuckaloe"I'll button it up for an overnight rest. Come morning it's ready to pitch at 85F....

cheers to that..ive done that everytime and had great success.

[shadylane]

cencracked corntrifuge ?
Sounds like something I'd like to see, Or build.

[HDNB]

Hahaha. MCH made a joke (or had a laff) about an earlier typo, and the name kinda stuck.
* on edit * note while cheap and fun to build, it does not work on anything finer than 65% cracked corn (like not on re-cracked)

[Swedish Pride]

Just ordered from enzymash.com, can't wait to give it a go.
Will do Oats and rice initially, is measuring PH essential or can you just go by the temps alone, I have no way of telling PH at the moment, this hobby has me skinned

[humbledore]

It will work without taking the pH measurements, that is just to get the optimum conversion. When I started doing high temp enzymes I did not have a pH meter and it worked pretty well.

[moosemilk]

Just ordered from enzymash.com, can't wait to give it a go.
Will do Oats and rice initially, is measuring PH essential or can you just go by the temps alone, I have no way of telling PH at the moment, this hobby has me skinned

You can always check a health care store for cheap strips that will get you by. Or figure most tap water comes in between 6-7, usually corn will lower enough for first enzyme. Not sure about oats and rice. For second enzyme most likely want to add some acid (backset, etc...i usually add a gallon to a five gallon mash at this point)

[Swedish Pride]

coola boola , I'll try the stips if the conversion leaves a lot to be wanted. Cheers

[S-Cackalacky]

First time for me -

Ingredients:

• SEBstar HTL and SEBamyl GL (3ml each)
  4 gallons water (PH adjusted to around 6.0 with citric acid)
  7.5 lbs. grain (COB of equal proportions)
  12 oz. fancy molasses
  The grain/water ratio is 1.875 lb/1 gallon.

Procedure:

• I put the grain mix in a 5 gallon HDPE bucket.
  Brought the water to boil in my 5 gallon still boiler.
  Add the water to to the bucket of grain while stirring with a big ss spoon.
  The grain cools the temp to around 190 dF.
  Add the 3ml SEBstar HTL while stirring.
  Cover with a lid and wrap with a big bath towel.
  Stir every 20 to 30 minutes.
  Iodine test shows complete conversion.
  When it reaches 150 dF, adjust the PH to 5.0 or so, and add the 3ml of SEBamyl GL.
  Stir well, cover with lid, and wrap with the towel.
  Let it sit overnight to cool.
  OG was 1.055.
  Added 12 oz. of fancy molasses and pitched 3 tablespoons of bakers on the surface, sealed and airlocked.
  Started bubbing within 15 to 20 minutes and slowed after 4 full days.
  After 6 days, it's bubbling about every 15 to 20 seconds and I'll let it sit undisturbed until after the weekend and check FG.

I did 4 buckets of this for a total of 16 gallons. I'll be ass pressing it for the optimum amount of clean wash. I plan to do 3 or 4 strips and a spirit run w/thumper.

Edit: A few things to add. I aerated with an oil free air compressor and added a big scollop shell to each bucket. The corn and barley were milled to a coarse grind. The oats were Quaker Old Fashioned. All of the grains were unmalted.

[Brutal]

First time for me -

Ingredients:

• SEBstar HTL and SEBamyl GL (3ml each)
  4 gallons water (PH adjusted to around 6.0 with citric acid)
  7.5 lbs. grain (COB of equal proportions)
  12 oz. fancy molasses
  The grain/water ratio is 1.875 lb/1 gallon.

Procedure:

• I put the grain mix in a 5 gallon HDPE bucket.
  Brought the water to boil in my 5 gallon still boiler.
  Add the water to to the bucket of grain while stirring with a big ss spoon.
  The grain cools the temp to around 190 dF.
  Add the 3ml SEBstar HTL while stirring.
  Cover with a lid and wrap with a big bath towel.
  Stir every 20 to 30 minutes.
  Iodine test shows complete conversion.
  When it reaches 150 dF, adjust the PH to 5.0 or so, and add the 3ml of SEBamyl GL.
  Stir well, cover with lid, and wrap with the towel.
  Let it sit overnight to cool.
  OG was 1.055.
  Added 12 oz. of fancy molasses and pitched 3 tablespoons of bakers on the surface, sealed and airlocked.
  Started bubbing within 15 to 20 minutes and slowed after 4 full days.
  After 6 days, it's bubbling about every 15 to 20 seconds and I'll let it sit undisturbed until after the weekend and check FG.

I did 4 buckets of this for a total of 16 gallons. I'll be ass pressing it for the optimum amount of clean wash. I plan to do 3 or 4 strips and a spirit run w/thumper.

Edit: A few things to add. I aerated with an oil free air compressor and added a big scollop shell to each bucket. The corn and barley were milled to a coarse grind. The oats were Quaker Old Fashioned. All of the grains were unmalted.

That sounds exactly great SC. Love to hear how it turns out, even if it's in a PM.

[S-Cackalacky]

Brutal, It's pretty well documented here - http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 11&t=56254 . I did the stripping runs yesterday. The flavor off the still is promising.

[shadylane]

I've been using BA100 and GA100 enzymes, bought a pound of each cheap and finally used them up a while ago.
Borrowed some SEBStar-HTL and SEBAml-GL to see how it compared to the BA and GA100 enzymes.
There's a big difference. The SEB products wins hands down.
It's amazing how fast the HTL will liquefy a thick goopy corn mash.
There's a pint of each sitting in the shop fridge waiting for me to start mashing again.
Now I wondering how good the SEBflo-TL works at thinning down the finished mash to make it easier to squeeze ?

[scuba stiller]

Now I wondering how good the SEBflo-TL works at thinning down the finished mash to make it easier to squeeze ?

Been wondering the same thing shadylane. Only seen a couple of references to someone trying it.