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Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:43 pm
by Durhommer
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:44 pm
by Durhommer
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:41 pm
by Expat
Durhommer wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:41 pm
20190927_183834-1.jpg anyone want to give me the easy way to adding a 20 amp circuit breaker to this can I condense some of the existing to the tandem style breakers I just want to get more power to my new site as its on a shared 15 amp my thoughts were to get a single pole 20 amp breaker from local hardware store 8 bucks...100 ft 14 2 romex 40 bucks a cheapo plastic j box 3 bucks a 20 amp outlet 7 bucks a outlet faceplate 98 cents.someone please tell me if if that wouldn't work just off the pic and what I said
I can't speak to your panel... Looks like you have space for a couple more single pole breakers.
However, nowhere I'm aware of is it allowed to use 14 gauge for a 20a circuit. You want 12/2 minimum, maybe more depending on how it's run (see derating).
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:02 pm
by acfixer69
pic has a spaces for 2 220 volt or 4 110v breakers.
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:35 pm
by Oldvine Zin
acfixer69 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:02 pm
pic has a spaces for 2 220 volt or 4 110v breakers.
Yup I agree on that, would use 12 gauge wire instead of 14.
stay safe
OVZ
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 7:41 pm
by Oldvine Zin
Oh and what I think you are referring to as tandem breakers are two pole 220 volt ones?? or do you want to add new peanut style breakers to add more spaces? looks like you have plenty of spaces left in that panel but maybe not much extra power available on that 100 amp panel.
and as just an anal electrician thing, that white wire coming off of that 30 amp breaker upper left should be remarked as a black, whites are neutral only.
stay safe
OVZ
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:07 pm
by pope
Dur there is room already, just knock out out the space on the panel cover and put in your breaker. 14ga>15a, 12ga>20a, 10ga>30a
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:42 am
by Durhommer
Thanks all you guys for the info ill pick up the 12 2 instead
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:07 am
by LWTCS
I'd put a 20 amp/30 amp quad tandem if you need to create space in the panel.
Pull the bridge off of the 20 amp pair.
Use the 30 amp pair with #10 wire and fire your kettle with the higher voltage,,,,and get some life back.
You'll be at running temps in 20 minutes or less.
You may not have a large enough panel to run the entire household as well as your kettle. So just manage your usage is all. Don't run your clothes dryer or oven when running the kettle.
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 8:25 am
by Durhommer
Thanks again you people are a wealth of knowledge that is great to have accessible from my back pocket!
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:34 pm
by shadylane
Durhommer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 7:42 am
Thanks all you guys for the info ill pick up the 12 2 instead
Look to see if there's separate buss-bars for the neutral and ground wires.
If there is use 12-3 with ground
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:50 pm
by pope
Yea man and just generally be careful! Not sure your level of electrical experience but reaching inside a panel can be a dangerous, deadly place if you’re not sure what you’re doing.
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:01 pm
by Durhommer
pope wrote: ↑Fri Sep 27, 2019 9:07 pm
Dur there is room already, just knock out out the space on the panel cover and put in your breaker. 14ga>15a, 12ga>20a, 10ga>30a
Wouldn't this be sufficient....
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:02 pm
by Durhommer
Look to see if there's separate buss-bars for the neutral and ground wires.
If there is use 12-3 with ground
Why 12 3??
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:25 pm
by acfixer69
Durhommer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:02 pm
Look to see if there's separate buss-bars for the neutral and ground wires.
If there is use 12-3 with ground
Why 12 3??
If it is a branch breaker box you need to keep the white neutral separate from earth ground.
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:57 pm
by Durhommer
Thanks guys think its gonna work out ill let ya know
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:12 pm
by Durhommer
Ok so I ran the wire connected the outlet wire is set at the panel that's the part I'm nervous about doing
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:06 pm
by Durhommer
Ok so after sweating like a dope feind I got a 20 amp circuit to my garage now to build a mash cube out of 2 inch insulation board that way I can ferment up to 120 gallons at a time ifn I wanted to
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:15 pm
by shadylane
Is that a 120v or 240v circuit
Re: Is there an electrician in the house...
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:50 pm
by Durhommer
Just 120 man but I have room for 220 once I get this beer keg ready for elements imma go put up for a gallon of gin and start tweaking on my whiskey mash of course in the evening once it's dark an I cant roof anymore