New filtering idea - while stripping

[Bagasso]

I have heard many say that vodka in the us is used wrong and that traditional vodka has a slight flavor from the original ingredients. What is meant by most using the word vodka in the US is neutral. Labels what would we do without them.

Any way, the OP was after neutral so, while he is also confused about what to call what he was after, he knew it when he tasted it.

[Bagasso]

I just did a quick scan of a vodka site and 5 out of ten of the top vodkas (according to the site) use charcoal and one uses quartz.

What about the other top five producers?

According to Ian Jay they know what they are actually making.

[Ian Jay]

I just did a quick scan of a vodka site and 5 out of ten of the top vodkas (according to the site) use charcoal and one uses quartz.

What about the other top five producers?

According to Ian Jay they know what they are actually making.

In cased you missed it, this truly is tradition and know how!
If only the old lady spoke English, I imagine that she would be a valued member here.

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[blind drunk]

I just did a quick scan of a vodka site and 5 out of ten of the top vodkas (according to the site) use charcoal and one uses quartz.

What about the other top five producers?

According to Ian Jay they know what they are actually making.

I asked a simple and honest question. I don't have any skin in this game.

[Bagasso]

The OP made the same mistake that millions of americans who call neutral vodka make.

My point was that those making neutral and calling it vodka are not making traditional vodka but neutral. The other 5 that BD asked about know and are interested in traditional vodka so they forego the charcoal.

Not arguing or trying to skin BD, just pointing out that the confusion exists and its effects are seen even at that level.

ETA: Even Europeans can't seem to agree what vodka is: Vodka Wars.

You know your polish friend saying that vodkas need burn would make me think that he must be used to the cheap stuff. Cheap whisky can burn and be rough while fine whisky is smooth but it doesn't keep it from being labeled whisky.

His description doesn't fit the definition that is often used here.

[vetting]

@ vetting,

Not intending to ruffle your feathers but your implication that running in pot still mode would produce a more neutral sprit than running in reflux with a Boka is flawed. If running in reflux with a Boka will not produce a more neutral sprit then running in pot still mode then something is flawed in your process.

Perhaps you should closely analyze the construction of you reflux Boka column and ensure that there isn’t some overlooked design flaw. Have you closely looked at your column packing and certain that it is sufficient quantity, quality and cleanliness. When drawing off sprit product what reflux percentage are you running at?

Perchance have you tried Odin’s Special K Vodka recipe? It makes a ‘Neutral’ vodka. I also tired it using Rice Krispies and it also was very ‘Neutral’.

Regards,
Coaster

That wasnt what I meant. I know that more flavor comes over when running in pot mode and reflux produces a more pure product. The point was that reflux runs are a lot longer in time - heck some members even run for 10 hrs. If there are impurities from your stripping runs, then you are going to boil the crap out of them over that 10 hrs and influence the taste of your output.

So had a few taste testers over for the holiday. One "professional" drinker who usually drinks vodka on the rocks gave it a big thumbs up. Everyone said it has just the right amout of taste while being completely smooth.

[retlaw]

i try to do everything my self,
so when i read that russian vodka was run through charcoal that was made from the birch tree
i said..self, i have tons of birch trees, lets make some charcoal and give it a go,
so i did,

made a barrel for making charcoal that i seen on the net,
made a batch,
then put it in my spirits and left it in there for awhile,
figured it would be like oak, just place it in a let it do its thing,
can't remember how long i left it in, maybe a few days , maybe a few weeks,
then strained it and gave it a taste,

what a mistake,
tasted like you were drinking a campfire, and the campfire was burning green wood,

there was no way someone could drink it,
so i bought some charcoal water filters and cut them into long strips,
washed then with water to get rid of all the dust and crumbs,
put them in the carboy with the campfire spirits,
and left them for at least a year, maybe even more,
can't remember the exact time, it was about 5 to 10 years ago,

then strained it out and to my surprise had my mind blow'n away,
a wonderful flavoured spirit,
most of the campfire was gone but it left this flavour almost like a tequilla,
with no sharp edges, smooth ,clean and very interesting unique flavour,
wish i still had some to try right now,

so that carbon really did the job,

which puts a question in my mind for another mistake...oh i mean experiment, lol,

in my studies of learning how to heal and feed oneself from the forest from the plants mother nature gave us
i have come across clay,

Pyrophyllite clay to be more exact,
it is said to have great healing properties from heavy metals,
russia used it for chernobyl,
the clean up workers would dust themself in it before suiting up,
the russians used it to seal up the reactor,
millions of chocolate bars with the clay in it were handed out buy the government to the people living in the area
for detoxing,

so my idea is to try using pyrophyllite clay instead of charcoal in spirit polishing,
if you research the properties of pyrophyllite clay you will understand how it accomplish's this,
i won't bore you with these details,

but here is word of warning for anyone using this clay,
store it away from anything and everything,
meaning if you stored it beside mint, the clay would taste like the mint after away,
even if they are in glass jars, thats how powerful it is,
so if you stored it beside a can of paint or gasoline, don't us it,
you will poison yourself,
even computors and wifi,
the clay would suck the radiation off these toxic machines,


you learn more from your mistakes then your success's,

[Prairiepiss]

So my question is. How do you get clean clay. If it sucks the garbage out of the air?

[retlaw]

good question,
you need a good source,
how i found out about the clay sucking up its neighbors next to it was when i went to my local health food store and bought some,
after eating it i noticed a mint flavour,
so i asked the pretty lady if they added mint to flavour the clay?
she said no,
but it is stored right beside the mint and they are both in glass jars,
she no longer stores it beside anything,

not only a clean and pure source that is need but each mine of pyrophyllite clay
has a different finger print or dna, slightly different element make up,
what i did to find out which mine was good for me (everyone is different) was i bought five different samples from five different mines,
took them to my natural path Dr. and had her do "Applied Kinesiology techniques" on me with the different clays,
one stood out from the rest, and i got lucky because i had a 50lbs bag of it,

but that was for eating,
i am sure for filtering it would not be as necessary, as long as it is clean and been stored proper,

i have a bro who drives truck and he drove a few thousand miles to pick a load of a different type of clay up from oregan and delivered it to saskatchewan,
they were using it for water filteration systems,
so it is well known of clays filteration abilities,

also i use dowsing,
had this guy once dowse for water wells for me,
i was drilling 7 water wells,
after the first one came up dry i got him to dowse and hit them all almost to the exact dept that he predicted,
his wife would hide a gold coin on him in their house and he would find it in a minute,

so i took that and applied it to "pendulum dowsing",
i read this book on how the USA military used this guy (who wrote the book) to dowse ocean maps to find russian subs,
and now i use the pendulum to test things to see if they are good for me,
some people think this is crazy shit,
i did at one point in time to but not any more,