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Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:03 pm**

Just wondering if this still would be any good? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll ... K:MEWAX:IT" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
I am looking at doing neutral spirits for the moment but may want to try my hand at flavoured later on.
I already have a 30L boiler with dual elements (1800w & 1200w) and heat control (30 - 110 degrees celcius), just need to find a decent still now...

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:23 pm**

That looks like a Bokabob to me, why not build one yourself, there is plenty of info on the forum.

OD

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:30 pm**

I believe that the debil part of the still is the wide wounded coil.

I think that it'll have problems to knock down all vapor.

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: debil coil

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:50 pm**

evil_spirits wrote:I already have a 30L boiler with dual elements (1800w & 1200w) and heat control (30 - 110 degrees celcius), just need to find a decent still now...

I hate to be the one to have to break it to you, but controlling heat input based on temperature in the boiler doesn't actually work very well. the wash will boil at a temperature set by the mixtures of liquids in the boiler, not at what you set it to

would make our lives a lot easier if it did work, but that's physics for you I guess

I'd agree with the others in that you'd be better off making a still if you can.

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2010 6:53 pm**

olddog wrote:That looks like a Bokabob to me, why not build one yourself, there is plenty of info on the forum.
OD

+1 OD, looks like a Bokakob Cup or slant plate. Not sure about that coil though, joes right, could have a problem knocking down the vapour.
I'd rather build my own, theres nothing better than drinking your own hooch from your own still. Now where's that bottle...

Posted: **Thu Jun 17, 2010 8:09 pm**

kiwistiller wrote:
evil_spirits wrote:I already have a 30L boiler with dual elements (1800w & 1200w) and heat control (30 - 110 degrees celcius), just need to find a decent still now...
I hate to be the one to have to break it to you, but controlling heat input based on temperature in the boiler doesn't actually work very well. the wash will boil at a temperature set by the mixtures of liquids in the boiler, not at what you set it to would make our lives a lot easier if it did work, but that's physics for you I guess

I'd agree with the others in that you'd be better off making a still if you can.

And if the temperature is controlled by a thermostat, which it almost certainly will be, that is bad too. You need a steady application of power/ heat, not the on-and-then-off operation of a thermostat. Especially with a reflux still; the reflux action stops when the power stops and has to take time to start again. Time that the thermostat does not give it because it cuts off the power again......

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2010 7:42 am**

Samohon wrote:
olddog wrote:That looks like a Bokabob to me, why not build one yourself, there is plenty of info on the forum.
OD
+1 OD, looks like a Bokakob Cup or slant plate. Not sure about that coil though, joes right, could have a problem knocking down the vapour.
I'd rather build my own, theres nothing better than drinking your own hooch from your own still. Now where's that bottle...

+2 CONDENSER WILL NOT WORK i FEEL SURE OF IT. you can build you own much cheaper.
KS

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:49 am**

That coil is weak. I think half the fun of learning to still is making the still itself and makin it to your liking.
That said...I think you could do better.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:36 pm**

Thanks guys, after reading the forum all night I see what you are saying.
I have decided to build the "Bokabob cup" still as it looks like a simple design that I can throw together myself.
And I will be using a keg boiler for this too as I have a 60L fermenter so this way I could do a 40L wash & spirit runs...

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:13 pm**

When looking at temperature controls, you should think of it this way, its like driving a car. you get up to speed (temp) then you partially apply the throttle, to maintain the speed (temp) you like. you dont floor it/let off/floor it/let off. It wouldnt be too smooth if you drove like that now would it? Your still dont like it either.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:22 pm**

That's how my wife drives.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:28 pm**

My wife's motto is

"If you don't like the way I drive
Stay off the footpath"

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:04 pm**

I don't think that column has slant plates like the Bokakob... I think it has a tube with the top half removed inserted into the column so it catches the reflux until it overflows, like the one below... It's called The Ultra Pure Still... There are more detailed pictures somewhere here in the forums...

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:41 pm**

I went and got the materials to build my own today and it is coming along nicely.
Thanks again guys, it was a way better option for me as it has cost me ALOT less then if I was to purchase one retail and it looks to be a pretty easy project so far...

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:51 pm**

Hmm. Not too happy with that condenser either. Could be improved, IMHO.

Posted: **Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:42 pm**

Ruined the coil & wasted $30 odd dollars.
Anyone want to make me a double coil to suit a 2" condensor pipe?

Posted: **Sat Jun 19, 2010 3:48 pm**

evil_spirits wrote:Ruined the coil & wasted $30 odd dollars.
Anyone want to make me a double coil to suit a 2" condensor pipe?

Where do you live? I just made this one the other day.

Posted: **Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:24 pm**

evil_spirits wrote:
I already have a 30L boiler with dual elements (1800w & 1200w) and heat control (30 - 110 degrees celcius), just need to find a decent still now...

I hate to be the one to have to break it to you, but controlling heat input based on temperature in the boiler doesn't actually work very well. the wash will boil at a temperature set by the mixtures of liquids in the boiler, not at what you set it to would make our lives a lot easier if it did work, but that's physics for you I guess

I bought one of these, was hoping to run it with the thermostat set hotter, if it started cycling I could bypass the thermostat and set the two elements up with two switches. Both elements for a quick heat up then just run with one of the elements for the run.

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Posted: **Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:51 pm**

mozzie26 wrote: Where do you live? I just made this one the other day.

I am in St Marys NSW. Australia.
If intereste in selling one please let me know ASAP...

mozzie26 wrote: I bought one of these, was hoping to run it with the thermostat set hotter, if it started cycling I could bypass the thermostat and set the two elements up with two switches. Both elements for a quick heat up then just run with one of the elements for the run.

Yep that is the one. Same boiler as what I have been using for brewing beer.
I was going to try & use it as a still boiler but decided to go with a keg & propane now for better heat control...

Posted: **Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:23 pm**

I'm in the Sunshine Coast. Qld , I could make you one for the cost of the copper plus postage, if your happy with the look of my work

. The 1/4" copper tubing cost's $9.20/m here. I have made mine to have the tails come out the side of the 2" tube but have been thinking of changing them to come out the top cap.

Posted: **Sat Jun 19, 2010 8:16 pm**

That would be great mate if you wouldn't mind.
I would need the tails out the top cap though as i have already drilled the holes for them.
I will shoot you a PM anyway and we can work out the details...Cheers...

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