Purple wax residue, best PH ? baking soda for whisky?

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Purple wax residue, best PH ? baking soda for whisky?

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apologies if this subject is an old one, i've done my best in searching for the answers that relate to my problem

Question1: why am I ending up with a seemingly waxy, “stale-purple and copper dust” colored residue inside of my column, lyne arm and beginning of condenser? Is this bad? The low wines don’t appear blue- before filtering with coffee filters it had a copper color, now slightly cloudy but clear.
The washes have been acidic before distillations

Question 2: what is ideal distilling ph for single malt whisky?

Question 3: I’m making single malt whisky, should I use baking soda after first distillation to help delineate heads, hearts and tails? Or will this create too much of a vodka whisky with heads and tails that I wouldn’t want to add due to possibly ?compressing into 'undesirables'?


My wash ends up acidic PH4-5+ using alcotech super start distillers yeast (i don't believe it has added nutrients- its a 1lb bag good for 1000-2000 gals mash).
there is definitely a learning curve to not combining too much heads or tails- i will be doing small, experiment blending from now on.

This is my third time with the same arrangement:

*12 gals wash @ pot abv 7.8%

-used local 2 row malting barley seed, untreated, floor malted very well
~30lbs @ 60-100% modification

-****(could this be the variable?) added few lbs Peated barley (smoked at low temp, sphagnum moss, No Nutes)

*AlcoTech Super start distillers yeast- . ferment smells acidic, banana, honey sweet (pleasant smelling), Low wines and spirits smell fine also of similar character- I plan on trying an ale yeast next batch

*Pot still ‘the whisky rebel’: 15 gal mega pot with ~2ft copper pipe column, NO Packing 3” – 2” – 1.5” – 1.25” – 1” - .75” (all those reducers add up lol)

*1500 watt cast iron electric hot plate


I have read on this sight, while reading about adding baking soda, that having a wash distillation that is too alkaline can ‘free’ ammonia molecules and create “blue crystals”, “blue low wines” etc.

All three batches have had the same residue but different PH's… Am I too acidic on distillations?
-First two batches I mashed with water at PH 8 (no correcting), ending fermentation PH at probably 6 or under, not sure. (fg .98-)
-Last batch I mashed at PH 5, let to ferment at that and locked out, added some crushed ‘Tums’ but still ended up locked out at PH low 4’s with FG 1+) before throwing into still
Two pipes after distillation, One rinsed and one not rinsed
Two pipes after distillation, One rinsed and one not rinsed
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inside of column.  Notice the stains that do not rinse out and are quite difficult to remove.  I use pumice and a scrub pad where i can
inside of column. Notice the stains that do not rinse out and are quite difficult to remove. I use pumice and a scrub pad where i can
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residue rinsed from a pipe
residue rinsed from a pipe
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low wines, abv 35% before adding feints from last batch
low wines, abv 35% before adding feints from last batch
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lastly, for fun, the 'whisky rebel'
lastly, for fun, the 'whisky rebel'
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Re: Purple wax residue, best PH ? baking soda for whisky?

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forgot to mention that im using local spring water (drinking, filling fountain) that i have not tested (not sure about metals, nitrates etc....)

and,
Much thanks

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Re: Purple wax residue, best PH ? baking soda for whisky?

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blue spent wash is usually high acid,, alkaline,makes blue spirets, a pH of 4-5 is good, so wondering if it isn't something in the water, maybe nitrates or sulfates that is turning to acid when heated. (try a diferant water) no carbonates in wisky.
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