plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
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plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
is there a certain type of plastic that can safely contain alcohol at 90-99%?
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
for consumption, no
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
Yep. its called glass.
Dont use plastic for storing alcohol. And stop watching moonshiners for getting your ideas.
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Go directly to jail do not pass the bottle ... no that dang plastic one.... ![Confused :econfused:](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
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(Subtly laughing to myself) Appears that this question has been adequately addressed ![sarcasm :sarcasm:](./images/smilies/sarcasm.gif)
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
well i didnt mean to post in fermenting and aging but since i was already here i did. i wasent actaully going to age it in there. But i am going to a music festival soon and would like to bring 190+ proof into the festival but glass is out of the question they will throw it away. so new question is there anything other then glass that i could store my moonshine in? maby some kind of thermos?
also dont try to belittle users just because this is my first post doesnt mean shit. ive read through this site and others for almost two years before i even bought any equipment and made 190+proof my first batch so you sirs can suck one. also if i was a new user that would totally put me off and i probably wouldn't use such a wounderful informational website please and thank yall
also dont try to belittle users just because this is my first post doesnt mean shit. ive read through this site and others for almost two years before i even bought any equipment and made 190+proof my first batch so you sirs can suck one. also if i was a new user that would totally put me off and i probably wouldn't use such a wounderful informational website please and thank yall
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
Hell you got off easy on this one, and you still got offended.
If you truly read as much as you said you have on this site, you would not have even asked that question. you're only fooling yourself pal.
And if you werent thinking of ageing it in plastic, why did you use the title "plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?"![Crazy :crazy:](./images/smilies/icon_crazy.gif)
If you truly read as much as you said you have on this site, you would not have even asked that question. you're only fooling yourself pal.
And if you werent thinking of ageing it in plastic, why did you use the title "plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?"
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
....ive seen post saying it melts through plastic. ive seen posts with people swearing they had theres bottled for almost a year and its fine.
would you like me to find them and post them for you?
please stop questioning me all you have it my word no matter what... for all i know your some fat old hooker thats has never seen a still in her life but ill never find out stop wasting my time people and post some fucking facts geeze looking for INFORMATION
would you like me to find them and post them for you?
please stop questioning me all you have it my word no matter what... for all i know your some fat old hooker thats has never seen a still in her life but ill never find out stop wasting my time people and post some fucking facts geeze looking for INFORMATION
Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
AND BY FINE I MEAN THEY DRANK SOME OF IT AND SAID THERE WAS NO DIFFERENCE IN TSASSTE. but i dont know thats why i am asking
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
Have your buds save some plastic whiskey bottles and use them. They are already camo'd.
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
they dont care if you bring in alcohol but i feel like moonshine is a whole other story. but no one has said if plastic is safe or not so idk what to think, just because theres no difference in taste doesnt mean its safe for you.
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
first, get a sense of humor. Second, while im a bit on the heavier side, im not a hooker. Ill give it away for free to any half decent looking woman, including my wife!!
now that I've got that out of the way, while some plastic compounds may be good against ethanol according to chemical compatibility charts, don't assume you have a pure product even at high ABV levels. you have a mixture of compounds and you will rarely find a plastic material that has inert properties against the mixture of compounds. What is good for ethanol is poor at resistance to ethyl acetates and fusel oils.
now is the fact that someone put some alcohol in a plastic bottle and it didnt eat through it and leak on the ground definitive enough proof for you? high ABV alcohols are powerful solvents and even if it is not eating holes through the side of the container, there will be corrosion of the plastic and that will leach into your product.
Some plastics will pass straight through your digestive system, and then once in the presence of solvents would form toxic chemicals. Are the resulting leachates in the drink noticeable by taste? i would not use that as any kind of definitive guide either. just because freak show artiste swallow swords doesnt mean it is safe for the whole world to be trying it.
The majority of users on this site are not willing to take the risk when the probability is so high for something to happen. Would you?
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now that I've got that out of the way, while some plastic compounds may be good against ethanol according to chemical compatibility charts, don't assume you have a pure product even at high ABV levels. you have a mixture of compounds and you will rarely find a plastic material that has inert properties against the mixture of compounds. What is good for ethanol is poor at resistance to ethyl acetates and fusel oils.
now is the fact that someone put some alcohol in a plastic bottle and it didnt eat through it and leak on the ground definitive enough proof for you? high ABV alcohols are powerful solvents and even if it is not eating holes through the side of the container, there will be corrosion of the plastic and that will leach into your product.
Some plastics will pass straight through your digestive system, and then once in the presence of solvents would form toxic chemicals. Are the resulting leachates in the drink noticeable by taste? i would not use that as any kind of definitive guide either. just because freak show artiste swallow swords doesnt mean it is safe for the whole world to be trying it.
The majority of users on this site are not willing to take the risk when the probability is so high for something to happen. Would you?
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
learn how to ask a question - aging means leaving it in for a long time - this is not safe. When you put it in the fuckin AGING section and put AGING in the topic section, based on the theories of this forum, what the hell did you expect.
Then again, with 5 posts, and asking such a question irregardless of the forum or topic, I suspect you are all experienced in safe production and such.
Going to a music festival and pour it in just before, well, I am no chemist but you are probably fine - but you will get some leeching. Something tells me (abit with limited knowledge of how you made it) that there is more harmful stuff in yer likker already
And just because you cannot taste the plastic thru the high proof crappy likker does not mean it is not there. Radon gas and carbon monoxide is odorless and will kill you - just because you cannot smell it does not mean it is fine.
A stainless steel flask/thermos may be an option
If you are going to bring clear likker though, bring it in a vodka bottle or something that had clear likker in it.
Then again, with 5 posts, and asking such a question irregardless of the forum or topic, I suspect you are all experienced in safe production and such.
Going to a music festival and pour it in just before, well, I am no chemist but you are probably fine - but you will get some leeching. Something tells me (abit with limited knowledge of how you made it) that there is more harmful stuff in yer likker already
And just because you cannot taste the plastic thru the high proof crappy likker does not mean it is not there. Radon gas and carbon monoxide is odorless and will kill you - just because you cannot smell it does not mean it is fine.
A stainless steel flask/thermos may be an option
If you are going to bring clear likker though, bring it in a vodka bottle or something that had clear likker in it.
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
Find a steel camping canteen and use it. High proof is tough stuff. At least cut it down some. Almost all the big guys use plastic these days good, bad, or indifferent.
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
your not drinking 190+proof are you
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
You can, just not straight.jedneck wrote:your not drinking 190+proof are you
I have 85% on storage, and take some time to time - but instead of putting 100ml in my 1L container (mason jar - great drinkin jar), I put in half, and add the same amount of mix. Hint - if you put a small splash after pouring the mix, it hits you a tiny bit faster
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
OK Time OUT>>>> let it rest please and Boble60 hang around it's not a bad crew here once you made it a home.... but they can be rough on someone in their first few posts....
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relax and drink a little 190 proof mixed with oj and things will look a tiny bit better just be careful with the neutral... it'll get you....
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
Well Im 5'10-1\2 and 216 lbs but my wife thinks I'm sexyga flatwoods wrote:Damn Cardinal, you just ruint the mental image I had going of you and was about to send ya a pm!
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
..... okay so i guess ill tell ya'll everything so you dont need to ask silly questions.
i want to contain 190+ proof alcohol at NO point did i say i would DRINK 190 proof no shit i would get poisoned rockphucker... like i said ive done my research for a while i have no problem pumping out 190 proof moonshine with no impurities. sorry i thought it was obvious i would just add water or whatever the hell i want to it once i got passed security...
THE QUESTION IS HOW CAN I CONTAIN MY 190+ PROOF ALCOHOL WITHOUT USING GLASS OR CONTAMINATING IT? no silly responses just telling me to use glass. I ALREADY DO!!!
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i want to contain 190+ proof alcohol at NO point did i say i would DRINK 190 proof no shit i would get poisoned rockphucker... like i said ive done my research for a while i have no problem pumping out 190 proof moonshine with no impurities. sorry i thought it was obvious i would just add water or whatever the hell i want to it once i got passed security...
THE QUESTION IS HOW CAN I CONTAIN MY 190+ PROOF ALCOHOL WITHOUT USING GLASS OR CONTAMINATING IT? no silly responses just telling me to use glass. I ALREADY DO!!!
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Maybe stainless ...
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This statement is impossible - with 10% non-alcohol, you have impurities. Even big manufacturers cannot get past 95-96% - it is impossibleboble60 wrote:like i said ive done my research for a while i have no problem pumping out 190 proof moonshine with no impurities.
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
Go to any liquor store and buy yourself one of those pocket whiskey bottles. They are made of metal. If you think they are too small... buy two. If you still think they are too small, remember, you don't need to have a gallon of 190 proof.
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Half pint stainless steel flasks are available at Wallyworld for less than $4 each . They are safe . Easily concealable . Tater told me not to say the rest of what I'm thinking .
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Doogie wrote:This statement is impossible - with 10% non-alcohol, you have impurities. Even big manufacturers cannot get past 95-96% - it is impossibleboble60 wrote:like i said ive done my research for a while i have no problem pumping out 190 proof moonshine with no impurities.
....really... i mean REALLY... you guys are ridiculous NO SHIT there is impurities in all alcohol but non toxic clean ass mooonshine
Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
well most of you havent help me at all actually you did quite the opposite by wasting my time reading your bullshit anwsers im definitely wording my next post so that 7 year oold will be able to understand it
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
Alcohol is in itself toxic. LMAO Especially at 190 proof.
You are getting a rash of shit because you are new. You are asking about using materials that are not considered safe to use. For what you want to use it for. You are also proposing transporting a very high ABV alcohol to somewhere that you would not have any other reason to have it. Other then drinking. And that ABV is higher then what is considered safe to drink. On these forums.
So what kind of response did you really expect? Did you expect to get a different response then the hundreds before you got?
Truthfully it kinda smells of troll in this thread.
You are getting a rash of shit because you are new. You are asking about using materials that are not considered safe to use. For what you want to use it for. You are also proposing transporting a very high ABV alcohol to somewhere that you would not have any other reason to have it. Other then drinking. And that ABV is higher then what is considered safe to drink. On these forums.
So what kind of response did you really expect? Did you expect to get a different response then the hundreds before you got?
Truthfully it kinda smells of troll in this thread.
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
right!?!? ive looked through almost 1000 post just on this website and have never seen people respond to questions like these i mean i did word the post like a retard but wtf trollin like crazy. also i was a little harsh on a couple of you guys but seriously just post facts and information... that it what this website is all about and once again i am not new lolol i wandered this website without a account for a year or so on and off
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Re: plastic container safe for ageing high proof moonshine?
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