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Portable swamp coolers

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 7:47 am
by T-Pee
Some time ago I found a personal swamp (evaporative) cooler at our local transfer station sitting right on top of the dumpster.
This is the unit normally found at Homely Depot:

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This one looked fairly new so I took it home figuring to use it for cooling the garage during our hot summer months if it worked. I filled the 6 gallon reservoir, plugged it in and pushed the GO button. Sakes alive, the thing worked perfectly!
For the next few months I'd use it for personal comfort while running the still and running 40 or 50 gallons of water onto the ground from the condensers. After a particularly busy month, the wife commented on the jump in the water bill.

I knew I had to do something different so I grabbed an empty barrel, bought a fountain pump with a 7 foot head capability, some hose and fittings and made a barrel recirc system. That worked ok but the barrel got really hot after an extended run and I'd have to dump water on the ground to make room for fresh.


Standing in the shop doing some reloading and enjoying the blessed cool my find was putting out when I took a hard look at the still connections and inspiration hit. I dumped the recirc barrel and recovered the fountain pump, opened the swamp cooler and located all the water and electrical connections and went to work. This what resulted:
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I pulled out the original dinky pump and replaced it with the submersible fountain pump leaving enough cord from the control panel and well clear of the high water level to reconnect the bigger pump with three simple connections for power. The black hose is the supply that goes to the pump.
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The clear is the return from the condensers that hooks to the top of the water curtain. I used clear so I could see the flow and regulate as necessary.
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The whole thing hooks to the appropriate connectors on the still column.
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I refilled the reservoir, started it up and watched as the system filled the product condenser and started to circulate. I opened the needle valve to the reflux system and watched as it too filled and began to circulate along with the product condenser output. Well, at least it works without heat. Yay for me.

The next day was the acid test. I filled the boiler with a batch of feints, closed it up, fired up and started the cooler. Throttled the product condenser where I normally have it...a small stream and opened the reflux valve all the way. Once the column heated up I turned down the heat and the column temp dropped clean to 120f for equalization. I let it sit for a half an hour feeling the cooling lines. Plenty of heat coming from the reflux and into the cooler and ambient temps coming back into system. So far so good.

I turned down the reflux and began takeoff still feeling for heat in the product condenser. I set the temperature gradient and left it that way for the remainder of a four hour run checking the coolant level once an hour and the cooler worked perfectly throughout.
After shutting down I checked the reservoir one last time and found that I had only lost less than half of the capacity...less than three gallons for the entire run on a 70 degree day and at least 80 inside the garage. Not only did this work for cooling the still, it kept me cool in the garage while running.

I've got a winner! :thumbup:

tp (and a more tolerant SOH)

Re: Portable swamp coolers

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:21 am
by ranger_ric
Absolutely brilliant application/repurposing of the swamp cooler. I am new to this and only have 2 runs in a potstill under my belt but found that I used 10 gallons of water through my recirculating system on a 4 gal stripping run. In other words I had 15 gals of cold water in my cooler with the pump and by the end of the run I had to change out 10 gallons. I like this idea because I know it is going to be well over 100° in my shed this summer.
I have also thought about rigging a pump to the swimming pool and running pool water through my liebig and back to the pool. My pool could always use a bump up in temp. (however I doubt this would even make a blip in 8000gal pool.) My mind gets stuck on pump sizes and head and distance from shed to garage. ooops sorry I am almost hijacking your thread.
The swamp cooler is a great idea. I love it.

Re: Portable swamp coolers

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:35 am
by T-Pee
Hijacking?? Threads are for discussion, amigo! I'm a chronic threadjacker so people going a little OT here is expected.

Thanks for the comments!

tp

Re: Portable swamp coolers

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:36 am
by Brutal
This is great Teeps! This is the best solution I've seen for cooling water. The cool air from the swamp cooler would be like gold during the summer where I live. I'm probably going to have to buy a new one as people don't just let something that useful go around here though. Thanks for the post!!

Re: Portable swamp coolers

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:06 pm
by mason jar
T-pee you lucky bastage! Seriously, who throws away a $300 piece of equipment like that? I never get that lucky.
I think I would have prolly just passed it up anyway cause it just looks like a fan. Good job man :thumbup:

How much power were you putting into the still for this run? It would be interesting to know what
this thing was able to keep up with. Sounds like it didn't have any trouble keeping up. I wander if
a smaller (cheaper) unit might work (for those of us not lucky enough to find one just laying around :D)

Re: Portable swamp coolers

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:04 am
by T-Pee
Running propane and a 1.5" column I'm not sure of the power but I had to throttle the product condenser ball valve to almost zero to get any kind of a temperature gradient. It could almost assuredly knock down a hella lot more. A smaller unit would probably do for most hobby needs.

Your mileage may vary however. Evaporative cooling works better in a dry environment such as we have here in Central Cali. Humid climates such as the Deep South may not get the same results.

tp

Re: Portable swamp coolers

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:18 pm
by heartcut
I bet a swamp cooler would do a good job of cooling off hot water, even in the humid South, because of the temperature of the water being significantly higher than ambient. Wouldn't do much for human comfort, but the still would feel better.

Re: Portable swamp coolers

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:57 am
by Hound Dog
Brutal wrote:This is great Teeps! This is the best solution I've seen for cooling water. The cool air from the swamp cooler would be like gold during the summer where I live. I'm probably going to have to buy a new one as people don't just let something that useful go around here though. Thanks for the post!!
Brutal, I don't think the air off that swamp cooler is going to be cool and comfortable for the summer. If you are in the "it's not the heat it's the humidity" south like I am, you better set that thing out the door and let it run in the summer.

Re: Portable swamp coolers

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 5:40 am
by Brutal
Hound Dog wrote:
Brutal wrote:This is great Teeps! This is the best solution I've seen for cooling water. The cool air from the swamp cooler would be like gold during the summer where I live. I'm probably going to have to buy a new one as people don't just let something that useful go around here though. Thanks for the post!!
Brutal, I don't think the air off that swamp cooler is going to be cool and comfortable for the summer. If you are in the "it's not the heat it's the humidity" south like I am, you better set that thing out the door and let it run in the summer.
Many years we get 60-70 days that we break 100f. Humidity is a little high but I'm not on the coast or anything. These work really well here, and I bet even with hot water going in it would be better than nothing. I see what you mean though, I may borrow one from one of the guys in the shop over the weekend to try before I plunk down the money myself. Until I build a reflux it would just be running my product condenser anyway.

Re: Portable swamp coolers

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 7:11 am
by Hound Dog
Guess its worth a shot. I thought it would make it God awful humid with hot water but I have been known to be wrong. I snatched the coil and fan unit out of an old walk in refrigerator. I will set that up soon but I can direct the hot air out my garage door. I'm not in an area that anyone can see in my garage so I can leave things open.