striping runs

[motorhead]

when most of you do striping runs or you plan on doing a double distilation do you save all your first run product together and do a single spirit run or are you cuting hearts & tails and saving them seperatly and doing two spirit runs? an all hearts spirit run and then an all tails spirit run?
Did my first sour mash run of ujsm last night and the hearts were +++, very nice. It was easy to distinguish the tails this time once they started coming through. I split the run up into 400ml at a time and wound up getting about 2400ml of hearts. I just hate the idea of mixing this nice tasting stuff with the 4 liters tails I collected.
It was surprising that the tails started that early, I expected the hearts to be the majority of the run, not the tails.

[Dnderhead]

If like it as is why run again? if you want higher % run just harts
save tails four next run remember each time you run you will
loose taste and gain prof Some add stillage on second run to add
flavor back

[Husker]

I am assuming you are double pot still'in to get flavor. However, for people double distilling in reflux stills, I think this method would work fine also.

Almost all of my runs are "double n twist" runs (several strip runs, then a spirit run in pot stills). When I strip, I do toss out just a touch of foreshots, but nothing else. I also go pretty deep into the tails (when stripping). I try to extract all of the ethanol, AND all of the flavor which I would want.

On spirit runs, I dump in several strip runs, and the last of the heads, and first of the tails of my prior spirit run (just how much heads and tails to add will be something you will have to experiment and find for yourself). The nastiest of the heads and tails from the prior runs I keep, but do NOT add it to a pot still sprit run. When I get enough of these nasty feigns, I run them in reflux mode (usually twice) to produce neutral.

Doing this, you will keep a pretty robust flavor, and get my ABV right to where I want it. If you only double distill the "center body" of your first run, you will end up with an almost neutral, that has most of the good flavor washed out of it.

H.

[punkin]

I do pretty much the same as Husker. I strip, toss small amount of foreshots and keep all the way down to 20-25%.
I put all this in the still along with all of the leftovers from the last spirit run and run carefully.

I find (with the UJSM i'm most familiar with) that from a 20 odd litre charge, i'll only end up with 2-2.5 litres heads and about 2 or 3 litres tails (again down to 20%)...

The rest (averaging 80-82%) being combined to body and watered down to about 16-18 litres of 65%







MuchLessWasteThatWayPunkin

[BW Redneck]

I mostly follow what Husker has outlined, but I do one thing differently with my spirit feints. All of them go in with the next strip run, as I haven't built my reflux to strip the harsher ends of the feints to neutral. It'd probably taste better that way, but findin' a keg in central Ohio is more difficult than it would seem.

[Husker]

BWR,

you might try putting the feigns into your next spirit run, and not the strip run. You might put the nastiest of the feigns into your strip, and the "better" of the feigns into the spirit. That way, you do not lose all the EtOH from those nasty heads (they are VERY strong EtOH).

Putting feigns into your next spirit run will help provide a stronger final flavor, and will also help to keep the flavor "consistant" from run to run.

You might give this a shot on your next spirit run, and see if you like the results. I know I like it better this way, than simply running the accumulated low wines.

H.

[motorhead]

My pot still is only giving me 50%abv, so I'm either going to modify my still a little to get a higher abv or double distill all my runs. Even the very middle of my runs is quite flavorful so i'm not worried about distilling it a second time. Just wondering how much of the nasty stuff to add to my hearts. while saving it up. I did'nt want to add the real bitter tasing stuff as i was worried that flavor would carry through the second distill.
Thanks Husker, you explained that very well. Makes sense to add the last of the heads and begining of the tails to your spirit runs.

[Dnderhead]

On striping runs i throw out for shot then run every thing down to 55%
If you have tales separate you can take down that far or just take the
better of them

[Dnderhead]

thinking about your question if you 50% you are probably in tails
just use "the best of of your tails" Save rest four next striping run
it is a matter of taste but if it is at 50% and taste good why do you whant
to run again? that is 100pr It is more of art like cooking if you like it don't
fool with it

[motorhead]

at 50% it tastes good and the hearts have a nice flavor, absolutely drinkable as is but its not much of a whiskey type flavor. Its sweet, has a flavor thats hard to explain. If you've made ujsm I'm sure you know the flavor i'm taking about. Honestly it tastes more like a strong liquor than a whiskey. Thats why i want to double distill it, clean it up a little more. It has so much flavor now. I don't know, can i achieve more of a bourbon type taste with ujsm? maybe i can't. Maybe I have to go with a cooked mash for the flavor i'm looking for. I very much like four roses 100 proof single barrell but ujsm so far tastes nothing like that type of whiskey. I dont know, maybe I'm trying to make orange juice out of apples.

[punkin]

Just keep doing what you're doing, run it twice, age it on oak and you'll see.


I give it to all my bourbon drinking mates and my bourbon guzzlin girl....










You'llLoveItPunkin

[Dnderhead]

Most of flavor of whisky comes from oke Manny different different
toast different wood also they sometimes add Carmel see recipes
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