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waiting too long to use grains and not suring up storage bin

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:12 pm
by Honest_Liberty
Well,
I've been busy with getting married, buying a new house, finishing the basement, building a cabin, new baby...etc.

I didn't really think about how long I had left my grains in my Rigid 5' gang box...close to 18 months. I thought it was insect and rodent proof. NOT!
I have it in my basement in the room with the furnace. It used to be in my detached garage with no temperature control.

WEEVILS!!! EVERYWHERE! I lost 100 pounds of grain because I kept delaying making a new batch and I would have to say there were 15k weevils inside the gang box all throughout my grains! I started seeing them once it got cold out and they just pummeled my grains. I feel so stupid.

wow, super embarrassed.

Re: waiting too long to use grains and not suring up storage bin

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:06 pm
by still_stirrin
Yuk! Get it cleaned as quick as possible. They’ll get into your kitchen cupboards and that’s a real mess....cereal that rustles inside the box...pancakes with spots! They’re a curse.
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Re: waiting too long to use grains and not suring up storage bin

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:28 pm
by OtisT
still_stirrin wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:06 pm.cereal that rustles inside the box...pancakes with spots! They’re a curse.
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High protein food. Eating bugs is our future. Otis

Re: waiting too long to use grains and not suring up storage bin

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 8:46 pm
by Tummydoc
If you direct a blow off tube from a ferment onto the grain it we I'll asphyxiate the weevils. The also don't survive freezing. Once killed, just mill them with the grain.

Re: waiting too long to use grains and not suring up storage bin

Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:11 pm
by pope
Lol Otis! Weevils are in the grain usually so no amount of sealing will prevent them... has anyone brewed with weevil laden grains though? Is the flavor affected?

Re: waiting too long to use grains and not suring up storage bin

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:46 am
by NZChris
If corn has been cracked for too long, I don't care if it has weevils or mold or whatever or not, it gets fed to the local ducks.

Re: waiting too long to use grains and not suring up storage bin

Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:06 am
by Tummydoc
Yeast don't seem to mind stale grains or weevils. I have only brewed once with Weevil infested grain, infestation was not huge, and I could detect no difference (other than not needed to add protein nutrients!!)

Re: waiting too long to use grains and not suring up storage bin

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:44 pm
by Honest_Liberty
since posting I've used a bunch of Diatomaceaous Earth to kill them.

I had no less than 30k weevils. They are finally down to manageable numbers. I may see about 20 per week in the basement, and dwindling.
I should have taken photos but it was so disgusting I just wanted it out of the house

Re: waiting too long to use grains and not suring up storage bin

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:00 am
by Tummydoc

Tummydoc wrote:If you direct a blow off tube from a ferment onto the grain it will asphyxiate the weevils. The also don't survive freezing. Once killed, just mill them with the grain.

Re: waiting too long to use grains and not suring up storage bin

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:49 am
by still_stirrin
Honest_Liberty wrote: Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:44 pm...I've used a bunch of Diatomaceaous Earth to kill them.
That’s what I used too. It took a while (months), but eventually they were eliminated. Now, I keep grains and flours in the freezer.
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