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Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:18 pm
by Fastoz
boiler.jpg
So finished up the boiler today and it does not leak with water in it. Passed the first test so happy because my welding has much to be desired. But it holds hot water and got a citric acid bath tonight. Electric heating parts are on their way should be doing vinegar run by the weekend. So excited about that. Then I will learn to ferment and do my sacrificial run.

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2021 11:36 pm
by CopperFiend
Congratulations! Looks very slick 🙂 what are you putting above it?

Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:09 am
by Fastoz
So I am starting off with a 2” mile hi copper pot still. I figure with it being a basic set up I can add to it. I want to get the hang of this first before I go to crazy. Needed an electric boiler because Im distilling either in basement or garage and needed to weld in electric element fitting and I thought I would cut a few extra holes and i just kept going lol

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:17 am
by greggn
Fastoz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:18 pm Then I will learn to ferment and do my sacrificial run.

You can always do a sacrificial run with the cheapest store-bought liquor you can find ... provided you're not ashamed at dropping two or three handles of Vladimir vodka in front of the cashier.

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:47 am
by FLOB
I don't know if you've already ordered it, but if you can build that boiler, you sure as hell can build a pot still/leibig condenser too.

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:52 am
by Fastoz
I thought about doing vodka but think I want to just try a sugar wash and work through the fermenting process to see how I do and how my environmental conditions effect it. I figure first fermentation would be a good sacrificial run.

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:52 am
by SassyFrass
FLOB wrote:I don't know if you've already ordered it, but if you can build that boiler, you sure as hell can build a pot still/leibig condenser too.
+1 agreed.
That's a nice boiler. Looks fine from here. You could build yourself a nice little modular system, that can be adjusted to make just about anything you want.
Might be something to contemplate.
SF

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:54 am
by Demy
Good boy. You could also use the same boiler as a fermenter since it also has a tap at the bottom, as long as you don't ferment very solid stuff.

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:55 am
by Fastoz
FLOB wrote:I don't know if you've already ordered it, but if you can build that boiler, you sure as hell can build a pot still/leibig condenser too.
I did order it and have it already. Boiler turned out better then I could have imagined. I am more confident now. So when I add on I’ll be building it.

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:58 am
by Prairiepiss
Nice looking piece of kit there.

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:59 am
by Fastoz
Demy wrote:Good boy. You could also use the same boiler as a fermenter since it also has a tap at the bottom, as long as you don't ferment very solid stuff.
Never though about that. Thanks for the idea. So is a keg tap a #10 rubber plug for airlock?

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:00 am
by Fastoz
SassyFrass wrote:
FLOB wrote:I don't know if you've already ordered it, but if you can build that boiler, you sure as hell can build a pot still/leibig condenser too.
+1 agreed.
That's a nice boiler. Looks fine from here. You could build yourself a nice little modular system, that can be adjusted to make just about anything you want.
Might be something to contemplate.
SF
Thanks. That was the plan. Still can grow as I grow as distiller

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:04 am
by FLOB
Fastoz wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:55 am
FLOB wrote:I don't know if you've already ordered it, but if you can build that boiler, you sure as hell can build a pot still/leibig condenser too.
I did order it and have it already. Boiler turned out better then I could have imagined. I am more confident now. So when I add on I’ll be building it.
Good enough. Enjoy the still.

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:05 am
by Fastoz
FLOB wrote:
Fastoz wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:55 am
FLOB wrote:I don't know if you've already ordered it, but if you can build that boiler, you sure as hell can build a pot still/leibig condenser too.
I did order it and have it already. Boiler turned out better then I could have imagined. I am more confident now. So when I add on I’ll be building it.
Good enough. Enjoy the still.
Thanks

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:14 am
by Demy
Fastoz wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:59 am
Demy wrote:Good boy. You could also use the same boiler as a fermenter since it also has a tap at the bottom, as long as you don't ferment very solid stuff.
Never though about that. Thanks for the idea. So is a keg tap a #10 rubber plug for airlock?
If you want to insert an airlock you can also use the opening where you insert the column (it seems to me to be 2 "), there are rubber food stoppers for demijohns that would be perfect.
Cattura.PNG
Otherwise you could just place an airtight non-cap, you don't need a pure fermentation hermetic as it will be distilled.

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:28 am
by Prairiepiss
Even with a drain. Cleaning out a still boiler that had a ferment going in it isn’t all that easy. It’s still easier to just use a separate fermenter. Just saying.

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:59 am
by Boozewaves
Fastoz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 7:18 pm boiler.jpgSo finished up the boiler today and it does not leak with water in it. Passed the first test so happy because my welding has much to be desired. But it holds hot water and got a citric acid bath tonight. Electric heating parts are on their way should be doing vinegar run by the weekend. So excited about that. Then I will learn to ferment and do my sacrificial run.
its really nice :D , a filling lid and drain are great additions to a keg , I added them to my keg earlier last year , it cost quite a bit to buy the parts and some trial and error to fit them but beats carrying a heavy hot keg to empty it out and having to remove the column or pot stillhead to fill or empty

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:31 am
by Twisted Brick
Excellent job on the boiler - you’re off to a great start.

Enjoy your new rig!

Twisted brick

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 2:49 pm
by Fastoz
Thanks for all the compliments. Now just have to make some good liquor

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:09 pm
by Durhommer
Nice work on the boiler man

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:28 pm
by Seanjohn19
Looks awesome 👍

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:39 pm
by SnowJeeper
Nice work! I really like the stand.

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 4:46 pm
by Fastoz
SnowJeeper wrote:Nice work! I really like the stand.
That was the easiest part. 1x1 aluminum stock cut into 3 equal pieces and 6 stainless steel bolts, nuts, washers and lock washers. They are bolted to the top and bottom rim. Don’t forget 1” rubber table leg ends

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:04 am
by The Baker
Demy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:14 am
Fastoz wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:59 am
Demy wrote:Good boy. You could also use the same boiler as a fermenter since it also has a tap at the bottom, as long as you don't ferment very solid stuff.
Never though about that. Thanks for the idea. So is a keg tap a #10 rubber plug for airlock?
If you want to insert an airlock you can also use the opening where you insert the column (it seems to me to be 2 "), there are rubber food stoppers for demijohns that would be perfect.Cattura.PNG Otherwise you could just place an airtight non-cap, you don't need a pure fermentation hermetic as it will be distilled.
Demy those stoppers are so far as I know not rubber.
Maybe nylon or something.
Red rubber imparts a stink to the contents of a jar.

Geoff

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:02 am
by Demy
The Baker wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 6:04 am
Demy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:14 am
Fastoz wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:59 am
Demy wrote:Good boy. You could also use the same boiler as a fermenter since it also has a tap at the bottom, as long as you don't ferment very solid stuff.
Never though about that. Thanks for the idea. So is a keg tap a #10 rubber plug for airlock?
If you want to insert an airlock you can also use the opening where you insert the column (it seems to me to be 2 "), there are rubber food stoppers for demijohns that would be perfect.Cattura.PNG Otherwise you could just place an airtight non-cap, you don't need a pure fermentation hermetic as it will be distilled.
Demy those stoppers are so far as I know not rubber.
Maybe nylon or something.
Red rubber imparts a stink to the contents of a jar.

Geoff
That "gum" is for food (and made for fermentation) and it's white not red. They are usually food grade silicone.

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:47 am
by The Baker
Yeah but the word 'rubber' was used...

Geoff

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:25 pm
by Fastoz
So I finished the control box today and for the most part, it works great. Glad I used a 5500-watt element it is like a rocket ship. On little problem with control, box forgot to hook up ground to volt amp meter gauge and Poof!!!! If that's the worst that happens it's all good. Did install a fan with thermostat control on SSR fines and it just kicked on its working great Doing another Citric acid bath to get rid of just a little more rust spots from welding and off to vinegar run. Also went shopping and got stuff to do first ferment for a sacrificial run. Using some turbo yeast for that, I got a free bag a brew shop today. I did buy some Red Star for realruns.
control box.jpg
runs

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:46 pm
by Fastoz
So the day has come and I have run 2 stripping runs of birdwatchers through the still and today I'm running the spirit run. This is defiantly a game of patients. Racked still with like 8 gallons at 40% and 7 hours later I have collected 9800 ML and it is still coming out at like 78%. Which is so cool but am I running too slow. I am getting about 23 ML a min by doing some simple math. Does that sound correct?

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:00 pm
by Deplorable
Speed it up to about 300ml every 4 to 8 minutes. You want a nice thin, unbroken stream off the spout. Watch your temperature gradient on the liebig. Cold at the bottom and hot at the top.

Re: Newbie first boiler build

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:06 pm
by Fastoz
Sounds good. The stream is way more broken than that I can see individual drips with space in between them. Ill turn it up just a little then. Thanks for the reply much appreciated.