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Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:25 pm
by bcook608
So this is DEFINITELY a "what not to do" moment.
Please refrain from any harassment or negative comments, I already know how lucky I just got.
This is a public service announcement. Don't let your excitement get the best of you. I got caught up in the excitement with my new equipment for upgrading my controller to 240v. I plugged in the cord and measured out the length I needed to run into my bedroom so I could cut it to the right length. You can probably guess what happened...
Boom!
Yupp, like I said, I'm a fucking moron...
I'm done building for a bit...
And I need a drink... A big one...
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:26 pm
by Uncle Jesse
I'm glad you're ok.
Enjoy the adrenaline rush.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:27 pm
by bcook608
Uncle Jesse wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:26 pm
I'm glad you're ok.
Enjoy the adrenaline rush.
Thanks. Got a nice little lightning burn on my thigh to remember it by...
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:49 pm
by Deplorable
bcook608 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:27 pm
Uncle Jesse wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:26 pm
I'm glad you're ok.
Enjoy the adrenaline rush.
Thanks. Got a nice little lightning burn on my thigh to remember it by...
You are very lucky that's all you got.
We all do stupid things from time to time. Like pick up a slab of dry ice with your bare fingers. Yeah, I just did that. Fortunately, I realized how stupid that was and very quickly set it back down.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:55 pm
by Saltbush Bill
WOW! that was a close call.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:00 pm
by elbono
That's called an arc flash explosion in the trade. I've lost a couple of screwdrivers in similar fashion.
We're your ears ringing? Some people need to put in ear plugs when doing electrical work! All depends on the size of the breaker. I used to work with stuff fed from a 2000 kva transformer. Here's the garb we wore for working inside the main panel:
And yes I'm wearing earplugs inside there.
Luckily residential feeds are small enough it's fairly hard to kill yourself at home even though it's possible and you can definitely need to change your skivvies if you aren't careful.
I bet you make sure the breaker is off from now on.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:11 pm
by bcook608
Deplorable wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:49 pm
bcook608 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:27 pm
Uncle Jesse wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:26 pm
I'm glad you're ok.
Enjoy the adrenaline rush.
Thanks. Got a nice little lightning burn on my thigh to remember it by...
You are very lucky that's all you got.
We all do stupid things from time to time. Like pick up a slab of dry ice with your bare fingers. Yeah, I just did that. Fortunately, I realized how stupid that was and very quickly set it back down.
Yeah, I set the cord down pretty quickly too. Unfortunately it didn't make a damn bit of difference
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:12 pm
by bcook608
elbono wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:00 pm
That's called an arc flash explosion in the trade. I've lost a couple of screwdrivers in similar fashion.
We're your ears ringing? Some people need to put in ear plugs when doing electrical work! All depends on the size of the breaker. I used to work with stuff fed from a 2000 kva transformer. Here's the garb we wore for working inside the main panel:
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And yes I'm wearing earplugs inside there.
Luckily residential feeds are small enough it's fairly hard to kill yourself at home even though it's possible and you can definitely need to change your skivvies if you aren't careful.
I bet you make sure the breaker is off from now on.
LOL if I'm doing anything like this again it'll be in the garage on the opposite wall from ANY outlets.. Just to be safe...
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:49 pm
by Stonecutter
bcook608 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:25 pm
Please refrain from any harassment or negative comments, I already know how lucky I just got.
Well now that just takes all the fun out of it!
Close call. Glad you’re ok
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:54 pm
by Bradster68
Wow. Close call. That's definitely a good way to ruin a pair of snips.
Been there, done that. Just not with that many volts.
Better make it a double.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:57 pm
by Dougmatt
I always say, anything like that you walk way from with all your human parts working can be chalked up to a learning experience.
Very glad you are ok and all your parts still work. Looks like you were cutting across your knee…. Bet you’re glad it wasn’t your lap!
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:09 pm
by HDNB
heh heh. i often use a new pair of line pliers to "test" a breaker. always leaves a nice little burned hole in the cutting blade that is perfect for stripping wire.
Never done it on a 240 line though. i'll bet that was bright! (the resulting light, not the action itself) LOL
glad you survived, shorting them is one thing.... coulda been really nasty/deadly if you got hooked into a line direct with a ground on the other end of your body.
gotta know though. did the breaker work?
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:16 pm
by bcook608
HDNB wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:09 pm
heh heh. i often use a new pair of line pliers to "test" a breaker. always leaves a nice little burned hole in the cutting blade that is perfect for stripping wire.
Never done it on a 240 line though. i'll bet that was bright! (the resulting light, not the action itself) LOL
glad you survived, shorting them is one thing.... coulda been really nasty/deadly if you got hooked into a line direct with a ground on the other end of your body.
gotta know though. did the breaker work?
It sure did! Lit up like a firework and sounded like a gun went off!
Breaker tripped immediately, thank the electrical gods.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:17 pm
by bcook608
Dougmatt wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:57 pm
I always say, anything like that you walk way from with all your human parts working can be chalked up to a learning experience.
Very glad you are ok and all your parts still work. Looks like you were cutting across your knee…. Bet you’re glad it wasn’t your lap!
It arced about 6-8" to my thigh. I was using both hands cutting ABOVE my lap. Just glad it landed on the 2nd leg instead of the third
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:19 pm
by rubberduck71
bcook608 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:27 pm
Thanks. Got a nice little lightning burn on my thigh to remember it by...
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Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 6:22 pm
by shadylane
bcook608 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:25 pm
So this is DEFINITELY a "what not to do" moment.
Please refrain from any harassment or negative comments, I already know how lucky I just got.
Yupp, like I said, I'm a fucking moron...
You might have been before the "earth shattering kabooom"
But now you've been educated.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:45 pm
by cob
I have 440v 3ph. in my shop and have made modifications to the existing circuits.
Mistakes are just out of the question.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:59 pm
by shadylane
Turn off the power and lock it out.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:00 pm
by IAmPistolPete
I've been knocked off a ladder more than a few times retrofitting live 277V fixtures. Takes a good 1/2hr to get your legs back. I blame that for my bald spots, not my age.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:16 pm
by shadylane
IAmPistolPete wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:00 pm
I've been knocked off a ladder more than a few times retrofitting live 277V fixtures.
They have changed the NEC rules.
Part XII Special Provisions for Electric-Discharge Lighting System of 1000 Volts or Less includes 410.130(G) Disconnecting Means.
Now each light has a small connector you can unplug.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:20 pm
by IAmPistolPete
They were all government & public school buildings, so codes did not apply
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:27 pm
by NZChris
A mate of mine made himself a new 240V extension lead and put male plugs on both ends, he discovered his mistake when he grabbed the plug
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:50 pm
by cob
shadylane wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:59 pm
Turn off the power and lock it out.
I pull the meter.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:33 pm
by Saltbush Bill
NZChris wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:27 pm
A mate of mine made himself a new 240V extension lead and put male plugs on both ends, he discovered his mistake when he grabbed the plug
If I had a friend that did things like that I wouldn't tell anybody.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:38 pm
by NZChris
We have even funnier stories that we could tell you about each other.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:11 am
by NormandieStill
NZChris wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:27 pm
A mate of mine made himself a new 240V extension lead and put male plugs on both ends, he discovered his mistake when he grabbed the plug
The house electrician at the university venue I used to work at, told us the story of a touring lighting tech who had a set of "tails" made up. At one end was a 63A 3-phase CEEForm connector. At the other, a set of 13A (UK) plugs, all wired in parallel. In venues without a genuine 63A 3-phase supply, he would simply run each of the plugs into a different wall socket in order to spread the load from his lighting rig. He also had the matching female version (a board with three lines of 13A sockets connected to a male 63A 3-phase CEEForm, into which he plugged the "tails" when the house supply was available!). The in-house sparky, listened politely to the proud explanation and without saying word, took out a pair of wire cutters and cut off all the 13A plugs.
To the OP: Lesson learnt then? The problem with electricity is there's no warning until it's too late. If something is hot you can feel the heat before you touch it. On my one or two occasions of being shocked, I found a good run while swearing lots helped to run off the adrenaline.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:18 am
by bcook608
NormandieStill wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 5:11 am
NZChris wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:27 pm
A mate of mine made himself a new 240V extension lead and put male plugs on both ends, he discovered his mistake when he grabbed the plug
The house electrician at the university venue I used to work at, told us the story of a touring lighting tech who had a set of "tails" made up. At one end was a 63A 3-phase CEEForm connector. At the other, a set of 13A (UK) plugs, all wired in parallel. In venues without a genuine 63A 3-phase supply, he would simply run each of the plugs into a different wall socket in order to spread the load from his lighting rig. He also had the matching female version (a board with three lines of 13A sockets connected to a male 63A 3-phase CEEForm, into which he plugged the "tails" when the house supply was available!). The in-house sparky, listened politely to the proud explanation and without saying word, took out a pair of wire cutters and cut off all the 13A plugs.
To the OP: Lesson learnt then? The problem with electricity is there's no warning until it's too late. If something is hot you can feel the heat before you touch it. On my one or two occasions of being shocked, I found a good run while swearing lots helped to run off the adrenaline.
Lesson DEFINITELY learned! I didn't go for a run because I'm fat and lazy, but I paced the house for a good 30 minutes just repeating "what the fuck! That was sooo stupid! Holy shit!" all while listening to my wife ask if I needed the short bus for the special kids because that was fucking retarded.
*no offense intended, we reserve the R word for when we REALLY need to drive home a point and I definitely deserved that one
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 6:55 am
by SDEngr1
Welcome to the group! We are a majority now!!!
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:24 am
by BrewinBrian44
Dude! You’re so lucky. That’s some serious power you just harnessed! We’ve all been there in some way. Brain farts happen.
I’ve definitely gotten a little thrill from working with 110V, being cocky and not turning off the breaker. I installed new power outlets in my basement and the previous owners did not install them up to code. There was not enough slack in the wire and I arced it with a screwdriver while fussing with the old outlet. Gave me some nice flash burn in my eye. Lesson learned.
Re: Aaaaand I'm a moron...
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2022 7:58 am
by Dee Envy
Been there, done that as well.
I saved the "unintentionally modified" side cutters as a reminder.
Glad You are OK.