Different mash builds into one barrel

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Guess I should have read this section before buying a 15 gallon rye barrel. I wanted to fill it with AG, but reading here tonight you shouldn’t partially fill. The only way I’ll get enough to fill it will be to add my UJSSM in with AG. What are your thoughts on adding different products to the same barrel?
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What's stopping you from making more and sticking to your original plan?
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This post is going to lead to many different responses. First off if you want to mix and you like your final product it will be hard to duplicate but might give a great result. I love rye whiskey and would leave it for rye. When first starting out I would make multiple runs and store them with JD chips or other wood products in glass jars until I had enough to fill the barrel. But I don’t think there is a wrong or right answer to your question.
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Salt Must Flow wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:48 pm What's stopping you from making more and sticking to your original plan?
The time it would take, the $ it would cost, and the space to store everything.

I have 20 gallons of wash clearing from my AG. I’m going to do a sugar wash on top of the used grains.
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I don't think filling a 15 gallon barrel from a seasons worth of work is that far out of reach for a hobbyist with at least a 15 gallon still and a 50-gallon fermenter provided you have a plan, and stick to it. You likely won't be making anything but a single product, and no time for sugar heads, but it can be done. You'll need storage for the finished product from each run until you have enough to fill the barrel, but it can be done IMO. Especially if you're making a simple mash bill such as SMW.
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Deplorable wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:12 am I don't think filling a 15 gallon barrel from a seasons worth of work is that far out of reach for a hobbyist with at least a 15 gallon still and a 50-gallon fermenter provided you have a plan, and stick to it. You likely won't be making anything but a single product, and no time for sugar heads, but it can be done. You'll need storage for the finished product from each run until you have enough to fill the barrel, but it can be done IMO. Especially if you're making a simple mash bill such as SMW.
I’ve got a 30 gallon fermenter. What is SMW? I did SCD Crow for my first ag.
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I also use 30 gallon fermenters. I have two, but have yet to run two simultaneous ferments in them.
From September to May, I have put up as much as 18 gallons of product, but damn it was a lot of work.
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Deplorable wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:52 am Single Malt Whiskey
I also use 30 gallon fermenters. I have two, but have yet to run two simultaneous ferments in them.
From September to May, I have put up as much as 18 gallons of product, but damn it was a lot of work.
I’m guessing that’s Jimbo’s recipe? Where do you get bulk Barley? The closest brew shop doesn’t carry a big variety.
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My LHBS will sell 50# bags, yours should as well. If not, online stores will.
Keep the recipe simple, it's going to get a lot of flavors from the barrel. Base malt of your choice and about 5% specialty malt.
My first single malt was just 50/50 of the local HBS 2 row pale malt and Marris Otter, it went into a once used 5G bourbon barrel for 18 months and it's been a fantastic whiskey. Damn shame its almost gone.

The one I'm working on now is a hodge podge of about 175# of barley malts I got for free. I'm off to a slow start this year and have about half of it fermented. Nothing has been through a spirit run yet though.
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Housemoney wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 5:40 pm Guess I should have read this section before buying a 15 gallon rye barrel. I wanted to fill it with AG, but reading here tonight you shouldn’t partially fill. The only way I’ll get enough to fill it will be to add my UJSSM in with AG. What are your thoughts on adding different products to the same barrel?
That's what I'd do. At least for the initial fill. If you can emphasize the all-grain over the long term, eventually it will be mostly all-grain. Kind of a modified solera method.
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