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Easy flange making tool

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:18 pm
by dukethebeagle120
Make your own flange quickly
No welding
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Use the crack ground into the wrench to roll out the metal.
When you get it shaped hammer it level and a lite sanding on a flat surface will square it up.
Easy peasy.15 minute job

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:24 pm
by 6 Row Joe
I don't see much of value here.

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:27 pm
by dukethebeagle120
I can't figure how to post more pics

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:49 pm
by dukethebeagle120
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Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:59 pm
by Dancing4dan
6 Row Joe wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:24 pm I don't see much of value here.
I do! I get exactly what he is doing. Great idea.

Heat the end 3/8 of the tubing till dull red, let it cool and that modified wrench can be used to turn a flange for making a tri clamp connection. It would work without annealing the copper but annealing it will make it easier to stretch.

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 5:00 pm
by dukethebeagle120
Dancing4dan wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:59 pm
6 Row Joe wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:24 pm I don't see much of value here.
I do! I get exactly what he is doing. Great idea.

Heat the end 3/8 of the tubing till dull red, let it cool and that modified wrench can be used to turn a flange for making a tri clamp connection. It would work without annealing the copper but annealing it will make it easier to stretch.
I been doin these for a long time.
A little filing and they look great
I do em cold with little effort.
Use a cutting grinding wheel to cut a thin slit the width of the flange and you get a perfect width flange all the way around

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:26 pm
by Yummyrum
I remember seeing that idea on here maybe about 10 years ago .
I tried it but I tore the copper trying to go too far in one go . Found I needed to bend maybe 20-30° and flare all around , then go another 20-30° for the next flare etc until it was at 90° .
I also annealed it first …. Easier on the wrists :ewink:

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:51 pm
by MooseMan
I did mine with a wooden clamp jig I made, and a ball pein hammer.
It works well but it's s noisy!
The hardness of my 2.5" would have definitely needed annealing if I tried the suggested way, but if I ever need to do another flange I'll try it, nice one duke.

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:36 am
by dukethebeagle120
MooseMan wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:51 pm I did mine with a wooden clamp jig I made, and a ball pein hammer.
It works well but it's s noisy!
The hardness of my 2.5" would have definitely needed annealing if I tried the suggested way, but if I ever need to do another flange I'll try it, nice one duke.
When you roll the lip your only taking the width of the flange.
So it may seem stiff ,but it's really not.
The pipe shown was the. Heavey guage copper and I did it with little effort.
Once rolled you take a hammer and a flat surface and peen out the high spots.
Takes 10-15 minutes in all but save's in waiting for flanges in your builds
I little filing to make it "Purdy" then your off again.
Dunno if he's still around,but stillerboy showed me some pretty good tricks on here a few years ago.

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:07 am
by Bradster68
dukethebeagle120 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:36 am
MooseMan wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:51 pm I did mine with a wooden clamp jig I made, and a ball pein hammer.
It works well but it's s noisy!
The hardness of my 2.5" would have definitely needed annealing if I tried the suggested way, but if I ever need to do another flange I'll try it, nice one duke.
When you roll the lip your only taking the width of the flange.
So it may seem stiff ,but it's really not.
The pipe shown was the. Heavey guage copper and I did it with little effort.
Once rolled you take a hammer and a flat surface and peen out the high spots.
Takes 10-15 minutes in all but save's in waiting for flanges in your builds
I little filing to make it "Purdy" then your off again.
Dunno if he's still around,but stillerboy showed me some pretty good tricks on here a few years ago.
No. Unfortunately I don't think we will be hearing from Stillerboy again. Last time we talked he told me he felt his time was better spent elsewhere. He helped me immensely and I'm sure many others. I personally will miss him.

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:28 am
by dukethebeagle120
Bradster68 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:07 am
dukethebeagle120 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:36 am
MooseMan wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:51 pm I did mine with a wooden clamp jig I made, and a ball pein hammer.
It works well but it's s noisy!
The hardness of my 2.5" would have definitely needed annealing if I tried the suggested way, but if I ever need to do another flange I'll try it, nice one duke.
When you roll the lip your only taking the width of the flange.
So it may seem stiff ,but it's really not.
The pipe shown was the. Heavey guage copper and I did it with little effort.
Once rolled you take a hammer and a flat surface and peen out the high spots.
Takes 10-15 minutes in all but save's in waiting for flanges in your builds
I little filing to make it "Purdy" then your off again.
Dunno if he's still around,but stillerboy showed me some pretty good tricks on here a few years ago.
No. Unfortunately I don't think we will be hearing from Stillerboy again. Last time we talked he told me he felt his time was better spent elsewhere. He helped me immensely and I'm sure many others. I personally will miss him.
I pushed report the post instead of quote.
What do I do.
Don't wanna cause any problems

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:38 am
by Saltbush Bill
dukethebeagle120 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:28 am pushed report the post instead of quote.
What do I do.
Don't wanna cause any problems
Fixed.

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:44 am
by Twisted Brick
Bradster68 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:07 am
No. Unfortunately I don't think we will be hearing from Stillerboy again. Last time we talked he told me he felt his time was better spent elsewhere. He helped me immensely and I'm sure many others. I personally will miss him.
+1

Yeah, Mars’s style has always been direct, mostly because of his passion for distilling and wanting others to do the same. Always willing to share his knowledge, but Mars is getting up there in age and has had to prioritize his time. It’s unfortunate to lose such a competent distiller, especially for the new folks here.

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:02 am
by Yummyrum
Mars is still around . He posted here a few days ago .

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:11 am
by Bradster68
Yummyrum wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:02 am Mars is still around . He posted here a few days ago .
Well from emails we had back and forth that's what it appeared to me. Obviously I misunderstood what he was explaining. My mistake

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:12 am
by Bradster68
Twisted Brick wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 5:44 am
Bradster68 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:07 am
No. Unfortunately I don't think we will be hearing from Stillerboy again. Last time we talked he told me he felt his time was better spent elsewhere. He helped me immensely and I'm sure many others. I personally will miss him.
+1

Yeah, Mars’s style has always been direct, mostly because of his passion for distilling and wanting others to do the same. Always willing to share his knowledge, but Mars is getting up there in age and has had to prioritize his time. It’s unfortunate to lose such a competent distiller, especially for the new folks here.
Absolutely. A very dedicated man. And very generous also

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:50 am
by higgins
Bradster68 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:11 am
Yummyrum wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:02 am Mars is still around . He posted here a few days ago .
Well from emails we had back and forth that's what it appeared to me. Obviously I misunderstood what he was explaining. My mistake
Yummy, StillerBoy's last post was Mar 15 of 2023, not last month.
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Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:55 am
by Bradster68
higgins wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:50 am
Bradster68 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:11 am
Yummyrum wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:02 am Mars is still around . He posted here a few days ago .
Well from emails we had back and forth that's what it appeared to me. Obviously I misunderstood what he was explaining. My mistake
Yummy, StillerBoy's last post was Mar 15 of 2023, not last month.
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I don't know how to search a specific users post, or I would have before I commented. :thumbup:

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:21 am
by dukethebeagle120
He grew up in my neck of the woods.
It was nice to read him reminiscing about the old times

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 8:58 am
by Bolverk
dukethebeagle120 wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2024 4:18 pm Make your own flange quickly
No welding
IMG_20240403_195534056.jpg
Use the crack ground into the wrench to roll out the metal.
When you get it shaped hammer it level and a lite sanding on a flat surface will square it up.
Easy peasy.15 minute job
Clever... I'm gonna have to make one of these

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:15 am
by Twisted Brick
Bradster68 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:55 am
I don't know how to search a specific users post, or I would have before I commented. :thumbup:
If you have a member's screen name handy, just click on it. The member's post activity is listed mid-page on the right hand side.

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This really comes in handy when you want to retrieve a member's post you remember reading but can't remember the thread it was posted on.

Slainte!

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:26 am
by Bradster68
Twisted Brick wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:15 am
Bradster68 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:55 am
I don't know how to search a specific users post, or I would have before I commented. :thumbup:
If you have a member's screen name handy, just click on it. The member's post activity is listed mid-page on the right hand side.

If you do not have a screen name handy, simply scroll down to the bottom right of any page and click on Members (next to Delete Cookies).
Click on Find a member and enter the Screen name, then Search. If you don't remember the screen name, go to your kitchen and fix yourself a drink (or refresh the one you're drinking). It then may come to you. :mrgreen:

This really comes in handy when you want to retrieve a member's post you remember reading but can't remember the thread it was posted on.

Slainte!
Works a charm TB. :thumbup:

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:58 pm
by MooseMan
Bradster68 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:26 am
Twisted Brick wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:15 am
Bradster68 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:55 am
I don't know how to search a specific users post, or I would have before I commented. :thumbup:
If you have a member's screen name handy, just click on it. The member's post activity is listed mid-page on the right hand side.

If you do not have a screen name handy, simply scroll down to the bottom right of any page and click on Members (next to Delete Cookies).
Click on Find a member and enter the Screen name, then Search. If you don't remember the screen name, go to your kitchen and fix yourself a drink (or refresh the one you're drinking). It then may come to you. :mrgreen:

This really comes in handy when you want to retrieve a member's post you remember reading but can't remember the thread it was posted on.

Slainte!
Works a charm TB. :thumbup:
Hell yeah it does!

This bit I mean :-
If you don't remember the screen name, go to your kitchen and fix yourself a drink (or refresh the one you're drinking). It then may come to you. :mrgreen:

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:02 pm
by Bradster68
MooseMan wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 12:58 pm
Bradster68 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:26 am
Twisted Brick wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:15 am
Bradster68 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:55 am
I don't know how to search a specific users post, or I would have before I commented. :thumbup:
If you have a member's screen name handy, just click on it. The member's post activity is listed mid-page on the right hand side.

If you do not have a screen name handy, simply scroll down to the bottom right of any page and click on Members (next to Delete Cookies).
Click on Find a member and enter the Screen name, then Search. If you don't remember the screen name, go to your kitchen and fix yourself a drink (or refresh the one you're drinking). It then may come to you. :mrgreen:

This really comes in handy when you want to retrieve a member's post you remember reading but can't remember the thread it was posted on.

Slainte!
Works a charm TB. :thumbup:
Hell yeah it does!

This bit I mean :-
If you don't remember the screen name, go to your kitchen and fix yourself a drink (or refresh the one you're drinking). It then may come to you. :mrgreen:
Lmao. We all on same track. :thumbup:

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:07 pm
by Bradster68
Apologies to Duke for highjacking his thread a little.
This does seem like a great idea. And as someone who hasn't started his VM build,I will definitely be trying this method.
And if anyone is not that talented when it comes to soldering or welding, it's a fabulous alternative.
:thumbup:

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:42 pm
by dukethebeagle120
Hey no offense taken.
Just great conversation.
Have at it

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2024 3:11 pm
by Yummyrum
higgins wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:50 am
Bradster68 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:11 am
Yummyrum wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:02 am Mars is still around . He posted here a few days ago .
Well from emails we had back and forth that's what it appeared to me. Obviously I misunderstood what he was explaining. My mistake
Yummy, StillerBoy's last post was Mar 15 of 2023, not last month.
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Doh , it was too :oops: :oops:

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:20 am
by MooseMan
Forgot to ask Duke, do you solder fill the back of the flange?
It doesn't show that in your photos.
When I rolled my flanges I filled the shoulder with a thick bead of solder and filed it to a similar angle as a Tri clamp flange.
One of them that had less solder fill, was an unreliable seal until I added more to thicken it up.

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:37 am
by dukethebeagle120
No.
Never had an issue
I do tighten the clamp down tight though
Usually they leak cause of not being level.
After rolling,a quick sanding to level out the mating surface takes care of that

Re: Easy flange making tool

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 10:20 am
by Bolverk
dukethebeagle120 wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2024 9:37 am No.
Never had an issue
I do tighten the clamp down tight though
Usually they leak cause of not being level.
After rolling,a quick sanding to level out the mating surface takes care of that
What are you using for gaskets?