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Rockenstein
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Rockenstein from South Western Ontario Canada checking in

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Good evening all.

What a great community you all have happening! So much to read and learn here!

Hope you enjoy this little bout me new member story I have to share.

Have had an 8 gallon Fast Ferment kit for many years and made but only a couple wine kits and a beer kit in it .. which came out pretty well. I'm retired now since Christmas 2023 so today while cleaning up my basement workshop I thought I'd dig that Fast Ferment kit out of the basement and give it a wash and see what I can make while I have all this single man with an empty nest time on my hands.

Oh also a couple years back I purchased a 5 gallon pot still on Vevor after having a few too many Evan Williams shots lol thought maybe I'd make some of my own drinkables with it but never got to it. It was the cheapest pot still Vevor had at the time .. the simple one with the condenser coil pot that sits on top of the main pot.

So we gots those above items.

As luck, or fate, would have it I was walking to the beer store with my Beagle sometime back in July and it was a garbage night. While walking down the street I did a double take at a curbside trash pile at a house that had recently been put up for sale .. what did I find in the pile but a Vevor 750 watt 1 gallon air still. it was mostly complete, missing the spout shield thing at the outlet, but after plugging it in when I got home it powered up and made heat. So on about July 18 I mixed up a 5 litre bucket of this tomato paste sugar wash recipe I found on Distillate dot org. I did nothing but let it do it's thing under my desk for 10-12 days until all the whatever had settled at the bottom. Don't ask me what the starting or ending SG and stuff was .. I just followed the dang recipe and left it alone sans a daily stir. When it was done I had a taste and thought ok lets siphon off 4 litres of the clean and give it go in the trash picked Vevor air still. 30 mins it took to heat up and then it started to flow and well .. I just let it flow and used my nose to let me know when there was little or no alcohol coming out anymore. All in I collected about 750 mL I don't have a proof measuring tool but I did have a bottle of Prince Igor Extreme 45% vodka handy. I remember watching that Popcorn Sutton moonshine documentary and remember the part where he shook the jars to watch the bubbles. I did the same with my jar and add 50 mL of distiller water at a time until I got as close to what I thought was comparable to the bubbles in the bottle of the 45% vodka as could be. In the end I wound up with about 900 mL of decent tasting stuff that makes all warm and fuzzy after a couple doubles on ice.

Now .. I want to go bigger and get more involved. 6 gallon sugar and whatever wash is coming up tonight. Not sure if I'm going to use EC1118 or this Lightning Turbo Yeast with carbon and stuff I got at the wine shop today. Also got some sanitizer, yeast nutrients, a regular hydrometer and a proof and tralle hydrometer.

Wish me luck :thumbup:
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Welcome from another Ontarian.
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zed255 wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 4:43 pm Welcome from another Ontarian.

Thank you :)
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Hello and welcome from Ontario as well.
Beagels are wonderful.
Cheers.
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VikingCanuck wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 7:00 pm Hello and welcome from Ontario as well.
Beagels are wonderful.
Cheers.
Thank you.

Seems we have quite a few Ontarians, and Canadians in general, on here. That's cool 8)

Beagles are amazing dogs .. Rusty is my second Beagle rescue.
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Welcome neighbor. Ditch the turbo. It's not for booze making. Use anything else except that.
Some reading here will tell you why. Great intro by the way :thumbup:
I drink so much now,on the back of my license it's a list of organs I need.
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Rockenstein wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 11:43 am
VikingCanuck wrote: Fri Aug 09, 2024 7:00 pm Hello and welcome from Ontario as well.
Beagels are wonderful.
Cheers.
Beagles are amazing dogs .. Rusty is my second Beagle rescue.
Rusty is a good name for a beagle!
They really are, we also had a rescue beagle, we were the third and last chance. She was the most loyal and grateful dog I’ve ever met.
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Great intro. Welcome from Ab. Yeast I'd recommend staying away from turbo anything. EC1118 is good so is plain old bakers yeast. I used turbo once on my first sugar wash, my ferment smelled like a fish tank and fertilizer. Maybe it was just me.
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Bradster68 wrote: Sat Aug 10, 2024 2:43 pm Welcome neighbor. Ditch the turbo. It's not for booze making. Use anything else except that.
Some reading here will tell you why. Great intro by the way :thumbup:
I get it and I've read lotta negative stuff about Turbo yeasts .. but I just gotta try right lol

Got sold on it by the salesman and they don't do returns so lets use it up and see what happens.

Side note is that I didn't follow the Lighting Turbo directions of 7kg sugar to 6 gallons water that it says would make up to 23% ABV. I figured I'd take it a little easy and go for about 15% ABV. Just about to pitch now and the wash specs are PH 8, SG 1.106. Not going to mess with city water PH right now as I suspect it will drop considerably once it gets going. I have lots of baking soda and hydroponic PH down solution to adjust as needed.
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NorthWoodsAb wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 3:56 pm Great intro. Welcome from Ab. Yeast I'd recommend staying away from turbo anything. EC1118 is good so is plain old bakers yeast. I used turbo once on my first sugar wash, my ferment smelled like a fish tank and fertilizer. Maybe it was just me.
Cheers
I should have done more research before I let the salesman at the brew supply store sell me on the Lightning Turbo Yeast that is mixed and packaged locally. Ingredients listed on the package say distillers yeast and yeast nutrients.

I've been looking at Red Star 9804 DADY on Amazon but I dunno if I need what it's advertised capabilities are in term of ABV potential.

What is a good brand of bakers yeast?

Cheers to you too :)
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Any bakers yeast should do, i just use the cheapest i can find, usually about $5.50 for 150 grams. Keep the SG low to not stress the yeast out as that can contribute to off flavours. Most of the tried and true recipes call for an SG of about 1.060-1.070, or about 10% ABV for a lot of the sugar washes and 8-9% ABV for all grain.
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What SW said.
Bakers yeast like Red Star or Fleischmann should do for general use, wine yeast for brandy and beer yeast for all grain mashes.
There is some good write ups in yeast and fermentation on the parent site and on the forum here. I realized there is more to yeast than I ever thought I’d need to know!
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Ditto what SW and Viking said. Here in Canada you can get good old Fleishmans at any grocery store.
Good luck and Cheers
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SW_Shiner wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:30 pm Any bakers yeast should do, i just use the cheapest i can find, usually about $5.50 for 150 grams. Keep the SG low to not stress the yeast out as that can contribute to off flavours. Most of the tried and true recipes call for an SG of about 1.060-1.070, or about 10% ABV for a lot of the sugar washes and 8-9% ABV for all grain.
Costco has 908g yeast for around 8 or 9 dollars here in Ontario. And the convenient 20kg bags of sugar for something like 37 dollars. You* look like a weirdo buying 20 bags that are 2kg each from a grocery store but 2 bags of 20kg doesn't feel as awkward.

* I should clarify and say ~I~ think i looked like a weirdo when i did that
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pipes+hose wrote: Sat Aug 17, 2024 11:11 am
SW_Shiner wrote: Thu Aug 15, 2024 4:30 pm Any bakers yeast should do, i just use the cheapest i can find, usually about $5.50 for 150 grams. Keep the SG low to not stress the yeast out as that can contribute to off flavours. Most of the tried and true recipes call for an SG of about 1.060-1.070, or about 10% ABV for a lot of the sugar washes and 8-9% ABV for all grain.
Costco has 908g yeast for around 8 or 9 dollars here in Ontario. And the convenient 20kg bags of sugar for something like 37 dollars. You look like a weirdo buying 20 bags that are 2kg each from a grocery store but 2 bags of 20kg doesn't feel as awkward.
I just go with what ever is cheapest, which is still not cheap by other countries standards, sometimes its the 5kg bags, sometimes its the 1kg. $12-$15 for 5kg or $2-$3 for 1kg, currently both are going for $2.50/kg
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