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Gold leaf?

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I am trying to make a Cinnamon Schnapps, similar to Goldschläger. Goldschläger has real gold flakes floating around in it like a snow globe. Has anyone ever come up with a way of breaking up gold leaf in to small enough pieces to replicate this? If you have worked with gold leaf before you will know that it is expensive and INCREDIBLY fragile. I dont think tearing it would do anything other than crumpling it up and making a mess of it. I thought about stuffing a sheet in to the bottle and shaking the hell out of it and perhaps it would break up by itself.

Any thoughts or experience?

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I just did a Google "gold flakes" found 100s of places that sale it.I have no idea why any one whould want to mix with drink.
at 140$ a Gram.
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Do you already have the gold leaf?
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Blender. :mrgreen:

Gold leaf is so fragile all you would have to do is press on it with your fingers and it will break apart. Are you going with an essence or cinnamon oil? My recipe BD posted a link to is a light brownish color. So the file flecks wouldn't show up very good. Maybe you could distill the infused spirits before diluting with sugar and water? So you would have a clear spirit. You would also need to find a sweetener that was clear. Sugar isn't clear. Interested in what you come up with.

But then again Dnderhead has a point. I like mine brown. It's different. I set out to make Hot Damn and ended up making something so much better. So I like it being mine. And different.
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Dnderhead wrote:I just did a Google "gold flakes" found 100s of places that sale it.I have no idea why any one whould want to mix with drink.
at 140$ a Gram.
The stuff I bought (for a different purpose) was in a sheet about 10cm square for about $5, which would be expensive by the gram, but it's a hell of a talking point when you break out a botte of Goldschläger at a party. I just want to try making it from scratch so I can take all the credit for it :P

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I have been given a recipe that I have not tried yet, but I am told it is amazing (and clear). I will have to see how it comes out, but I am just thinking ahead at this stage.

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It is the stuff they use in bakeries?
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blind drunk wrote:It is the stuff they use in bakeries?
Yes, in the high-end ones I have seen it used.
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East Indian bakeries use it alot for their confectionery style cake squares ... Silver too.
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.....real bad experience with the stuff in college :sick: ....can never have it again, nor would I ever want to. I think we only drank it was because it was the highest proof thing we could find.
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Gold leaf is like a few atoms thick, light can pass through it. Hold a sheet in front of a strong light and it should have a green glow. Flakes will float in the air, and if you rub a flake between your fingers it will disappear.

I think your idea of putting a sheet of gold leaf into a bottle and shaking it will do the trick. Remove the paper backing when the gold has shaken off and broken up into snowflakes.

Drinking a bit of pure gold cannot be harmful, and some say there are benefits. There is a debate whether the gold/silver is best drunk as flakes or as ions, but you can't see the ions.

'Gold Flakes' can be anything other than pure gold; 'Gold Leaf' is pure gold.
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brewnovice wrote:I am trying to make a Cinnamon Schnapps, similar to Goldschläger. Goldschläger has real gold flakes floating around in it like a snow globe. Has anyone ever come up with a way of breaking up gold leaf in to small enough pieces to replicate this? If you have worked with gold leaf before you will know that it is expensive and INCREDIBLY fragile. I dont think tearing it would do anything other than crumpling it up and making a mess of it. I thought about stuffing a sheet in to the bottle and shaking the hell out of it and perhaps it would break up by itself.

Any thoughts or experience?

Cheers
Kev
Interesting thought experiment - I've never done this, so proceed at you own risk.

Try pouring water into a baking dish, then freezing. After the water is frozen, lay the foil onto the ice and pour a layer of water over it. Then freeze again. Now you have the foil inside a sheet of ice. Take a hammer to it - the ice should prevent it from crumpling up. Then let the ice melt and you should have gold flakes left. Or just put the ice into your neutral to let it dilute to proof.

Or something like that.
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take a quart jar fill it half way take the paper baking off the gold leaf and put it in the jar and shake the gold leaf will be in hundreds of pieces now you can use a small funnel to put it in your bottle or just leave it in the quart jar
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Just dont go wild on doing this with silver leaf - too much silver - ionic, flaked or otherwise will turn your skin completely and irreversibly blue
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Just dont go wild on doing this with silver leaf - too much silver - ionic, flaked or otherwise will turn your skin completely and irreversibly blue
Is the toxicity cumulative over time?
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blind drunk wrote:
Just dont go wild on doing this with silver leaf - too much silver - ionic, flaked or otherwise will turn your skin completely and irreversibly blue
Is the toxicity cumulative over time?
Yep, the body has no significant ability to excrete silver, that there is no reversal of this effect suggests that there is no way to extract it from your system using chelation or other binders.
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HI All,

I made some of this stuff yesterday. I made up some Vodka and just placed the gold leaf into the bottle with tweezers (just some scraps I had in a jar, I am a bullion dealer). I gave it a shake around and it all broke into small but still easily visible pieces. Some sunk but most didn't. I guess the air bubbles from the shaking is keeping them up but since yesterday more seem to be dropping. If you just gently move the bottle around they all spread evenly throughout and it looks awesome!

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frozenthunderbolt wrote:Just dont go wild on doing this with silver leaf - too much silver - ionic, flaked or otherwise will turn your skin completely and irreversibly blue
I always wondered where then Smurfs came from. Never would have figured they was dwarfs that drank too much lickker with silver flakes!
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brewnovice, The gold leaf is just for show so put it in there and shake it if you want to. I would be more into what it taste like. Mr Piss has a recipe for cinnamon schnapps that I am fixing right now. Here is a link to his recipe. http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 11&t=25616 . I have not had the finished product yet but I can't help but taste a little as it goes! I think it will be great when done. :thumbup: Good luck on your venture and think about the ingredients you could buy with what the gold leaf cost!
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Richard7 wrote:brewnovice, The gold leaf is just for show so put it in there and shake it if you want to. I would be more into what it taste like. Mr Piss has a recipe for cinnamon schnapps that I am fixing right now. Here is a link to his recipe. http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 11&t=25616 . I have not had the finished product yet but I can't help but taste a little as it goes! I think it will be great when done. :thumbup: Good luck on your venture and think about the ingredients you could buy with what the gold leaf cost!
Gold leaf is so ridiciously thin that it costs very little - not much weight of gold in it :thumbup:
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frozenthunderbolt wrote:
blind drunk wrote:
Just dont go wild on doing this with silver leaf - too much silver - ionic, flaked or otherwise will turn your skin completely and irreversibly blue
Is the toxicity cumulative over time?
Yep, the body has no significant ability to excrete silver, that there is no reversal of this effect suggests that there is no way to extract it from your system using chelation or other binders.
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cob wrote:
frozenthunderbolt wrote:
blind drunk wrote:
Just dont go wild on doing this with silver leaf - too much silver - ionic, flaked or otherwise will turn your skin completely and irreversibly blue
Is the toxicity cumulative over time?
Yep, the body has no significant ability to excrete silver, that there is no reversal of this effect suggests that there is no way to extract it from your system using chelation or other binders.
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