Way you learn?

[gmm213]

I was wondering if it's just me or what? I am a visual and hands on learner. IE you can hand me a schematic and I'll just confuse myself but give me the actual thing and I can take it apart figure out how it works and put it back together. I've noticed it here especially. That and once I finally grasp the basic concepts of everything the more complicated theories seem overly simple. Just wondering cause I've asked some questions that people put in theory but it takes some describing it in such a way that I can make a visual in my head.

[ga flatwoods]

Nah, you are not alone in that principal. At 40 and married I thought I knew all about women, until the impending divorce. With much "hands off" ( thankfully not in prison now) experience I was trained well! Once I started not giving a damn and treating the hoes I met like queens and queens like hoes, I finally grasped the concept very well! You will do fine, take your time and enjoy the ride-(wisdom gained from an old cougar!):-)
GA Flatwoods

[gmm213]

No man will ever understand women even 25% of these thought process and actions lol.

I'm starting to grasp things here but it makes me realize were some people ask what seems like a simple question but it's because they're so confused by everything at first with all the theories that are thrown at them.

[WERAT]

[quote="ga flatwoods"]At 40 and married I thought I knew all about women,
You wont ever know "ALL" about women. I have been married for over 20 years and I am still learning.


gmm213,
I understand where you are coming from. I have a hard time with learning by just reading and pictures.
I do understand schematics but it is just not the same.
Experience and doing is one of the best ways of learning. The light bulb comes on and you say, "that was what they were talking about".
You just have to make sure you are being safe with this hobby. It can be a killer in more ways that one.

[Prairiepiss]

I personaly am the opposite. I would rather have the schematic in my hand. It's the first thing I grab. Many times before I even look at the system I'm working on.

But I see what you are saying. The way the theorys have to be written out. So that people can fully understand them. Make it seam a lot more cornfusing then it is. But once you get that ah ha moment. Then the puzzle pieces all start falling into place.

[OlympicMtDoo]

We talkin about women or stillin here so far I'm still learnin about both and in both cases a book is nice but hands on is very much my prefered method of learnin

[bearriver]

Have you heard it said "im not a math person". This is a sad statement, beacuse its simply not true. Its pure laziness. Everyone is a math person (almost). We often hear about this kind of learner or that kind. Truth is that average healthy adults all learn the same ways. Its just some picked up certain skills that others did not.

An average person can learn the same concept with either hands on experience, communication, or watching another person do something. None of them exclusively apply to anyone here. My point is this, it is best not to limit your capabilities. You CAN learn however way you choose to apply yourself. You are smart enough (it doesnt take much). You just need some new skills if your having trouble.

The only way you will really not be able to learn a certain way, is if you accept it as such.

[bellybuster]

since the beginning of time scholars have been studying schematics of women and are still no further ahead

The only way you will really not be able to learn a certain way, is if you accept it as such.

words of wisdom there, I used a similar quote every day with students that I taught.

[Truckinbutch]

Only reason I graduated from high school was because I caught the vice-principal shagging a cheer leader . Didn't matter none to me but bein caught sure was a BIG concern to him . That gave me the advantage to get the diploma I needed .
After that I realized that I need to learn more to go anywhere . I started applying myself to what ever I wanted to learn . Nothing has stood in my way since that day . You are only limited by yourself .

[corene1]

Have you heard it said "im not a math person". This is a sad statement, beacuse its simply not true. Its pure laziness. Everyone is a math person (almost). We often hear about this kind of learner or that kind. Truth is that average healthy adults all learn the same ways. Its just some picked up certain skills that others did not.

An average person can learn the same concept with either hands on experience, communication, or watching another person do something. None of them exclusively apply to anyone here. My point is this, it is best not to limit your capabilities. You CAN learn however way you choose to apply yourself. You are smart enough (it doesnt take much). You just need some new skills if your having trouble.

The only way you will really not be able to learn a certain way, is if you accept it as such.

Yes most people can learn , it is just harder for some to see things correctly. Take a person with Dyslexia, or Dyscalculia. In one the words and letters get tangled up causing a problem with understanding written directions. Then take Dyscalculia, similar but the numbers and formulas get tangled causing miscalculations. In these instances learning hands on is much easier than reading or calculating. I do have a friend that has dyscalculia and also has an IQ of 137 a very knowledgeable person , but math is quite difficult for her. So in some cases Math or written directions Can limit your abilities.

[S-Cackalacky]

Have you heard it said "im not a math person". This is a sad statement, beacuse its simply not true. Its pure laziness. Everyone is a math person (almost). We often hear about this kind of learner or that kind. Truth is that average healthy adults all learn the same ways. Its just some picked up certain skills that others did not.

An average person can learn the same concept with either hands on experience, communication, or watching another person do something. None of them exclusively apply to anyone here. My point is this, it is best not to limit your capabilities. You CAN learn however way you choose to apply yourself. You are smart enough (it doesnt take much). You just need some new skills if your having trouble.

The only way you will really not be able to learn a certain way, is if you accept it as such.

Yes most people can learn , it is just harder for some to see things correctly. Take a person with Dyslexia, or Dyscalculia. In one the words and letters get tangled up causing a problem with understanding written directions. Then take Dyscalculia, similar but the numbers and formulas get tangled causing miscalculations. In these instances learning hands on is much easier than reading or calculating. I do have a friend that has dyscalculia and also has an IQ of 137 a very knowledgeable person , but math is quite difficult for her. So in some cases Math or written directions Can limit your abilities.

+1
My daughter has dyscalculia. It caused her a lot of grief in school. She's talented in many other ways, but math...not so much.

We DO all function in different ways - different aptitudes, different approaches to problem solving, different motivations, etc. Ain't no two of us alike.

S-C

[Theo]

It's usually a matter of 'want to'. Homer Hickam wrote October Sky (good movie too). He was a poor math student, yet taught himself calculus by reading the book. That is doing it the hard way!

[pounsfos]

hands on is the best way to learn, studies show learning hands on" will give you an 83% chance of retaining that information on the first go, where as reading is about 30%, and watching someone is about 10% (off the top of my head, might try dig out the paper)

also

don't try to understand women, women understand women and they hate each other

[googe]

I'm with you gmm, I need to get my hands into it before I understand it, or believe it. people who say your lazy for not teaching yourself are narrow minded, it's easy for them because of the way they were born, it's in them, some just can't get there no matter how hard they try. I can be narrow minded saying what I just said also. We all have our use in life, if we were all the same, shit just wouldn't get done.

[Prairiepiss]

Well my reading skills are um. Well! Leave a lot to be desired. My son at the age of 10 could read better then I could. And I graduated the public school system. What does that tell you about that? Anyway I find it very difficult to read written words. I can read a schematic like nobodys business. But written word is very hard. Sometimes I mite have to read the same sentence 2 or 4 times to comprehend it. Think about how long it would take you to read a book. If you had to read every other sentence 2 to 4 times. Plus reading slow to begin with. How sad is it that my son can read a book in a day or two. And it would take me a week or two. And my spelling is atrocious. If I didn't have autocorrect and or spell check. You all would have as much problems reading my posts as I do yours. If you could read it at all? If I was hand writing this. You could forget it. You would ne better off reading Egyptian hieroglyphics.

But even with this problem. I took it upon myself to read for approx 8 months. On here and the parent site. Before I finally fired up my still. And I think of myself as pretty much a hands on learner. But I do not feel this hobby should be jumped right into trying to get hands on experience. Before due diligence research had been completed. It's a waste of your time and ours.

Couple pet peeves of mine.
People that just have to point out others spelling mistakes or grammatical errors. Really does it make them feel all high and mighty. That they can point out someone's mistakes. And make them feel bad for doing it? Sory its not that important to me. That you need to point it out to me. I already know I can't spell. I don't need someone rubbing my nose in it.

And people that say they can't learn by reading. If I can learn by reading. With my crappy reading skills. Then I don't feel that is a valid excuse to not learn by reading. If you they really wanted to learn that subject. They would put every effort they could. Into reading and learning that subject. I did it. So can others.

I've actually became a much better reader because of this forum. I do still struggle with it. But every day I interact with this forum I get a little better. That wouldn't happen if I didn't push myself to do so.

Where there is a will. There is a way.

[Maritimer]

Mr PP,

You may have a hard time reading, but you are a great writer!

M

[apdb]

Im in that same boat with reading. I read a line then reread the line then again. Its madness trying to get through a novel. Then my brother told me to try an audio book for shits and giggles. Monday to Friday I drive an hour each direction to and from work. I started playing audio books through the stereo. Well in two years I've pounded out a little over 30 books. Some tougher reads too. A tale of two cities, gone with the wind, game of thrones series, The Gunslinger series, to name just a few... I love it. Its like the difference between trying to read a Shakespeare play or watching the play. The words suddenly make sense. If you ever find yourself washing dishes or just going for a quite walk, try it out on the headphones. It does take some practice so don't try it with the kids running around. Probably shouldn't try it while driving either lol
Aaron

[S-Cackalacky]

Mr PP,

You may have a hard time reading, but you are a great writer!

M

+1 on that!

Piss, I can think of a half dozen or so people on this forum that have been the MOST help to my understanding of the fundamentals and you're right up at the top of that list. That's not to say that I haven't received a great deal of knowledge from the forum members in general, but there is the select few (IMO) whose input I have the greatest respect and confidence in its accuracy.

I would also like to mention that I have the same reading problem as you. I remember when I was a young student, there were times when we would be segregated into groups depending on our reading speed and comprehension. I would always be in the most deficient group. This pissed me off enough to make me want to overcome it. I forced myself to read such things as "The Gulag Archipelago" and "The Grapes of Wrath" - big assed books that took weeks and weeks to read. My daughter has the same problem. It has been my mission in life to encourage her to read and not be discouraged by how long it takes to finish a book. How long it takes doesn't matter - it's what you gain from it intellectually that matters.

Just sayin',
S-C

Posted while apdb was posting.

[Prairiepiss]

Im in that same boat with reading. I read a line then reread the line then again. Its madness trying to get through a novel. Then my brother told me to try an audio book for shits and giggles. Monday to Friday I drive an hour each direction to and from work. I started playing audio books through the stereo. Well in two years I've pounded out a little over 30 books. Some tougher reads too. A tale of two cities, gone with the wind, game of thrones series, The Gunslinger series, to name just a few... I love it. Its like the difference between trying to read a Shakespeare play or watching the play. The words suddenly make sense. If you ever find yourself washing dishes or just going for a quite walk, try it out on the headphones. It does take some practice so don't try it with the kids running around. Probably shouldn't try it while driving either lol
Aaron

If we could just get home distiller forum on tape. We would be golden.

[apdb]

Hahahah i was waiting for that

[bearriver]

Home distiller media would be amazing. This site could use a channel. Videos would help alot of folks here that struggle with obtaining the info they need. Who cares if it didnt have weekly episodes? I see potential revenue, plus it would be heaps of fun for the episode creators.

I think the only reason no one has done it, is beacuse identity protection is important to almost everyone here.

Sadly the only distilling videos are on YouTube... and full of nonsense.

[Jimbo]

A picture is worth 10,000 words to me. Its how my brain is wired, very visual. When Im solving problems Its always visual in my head, when with the guys at work Im usually standing at the white board drawing or making flow diagrams or graphs. When I write on here I often add pictures. It helps me feel like Im getting the point across better. I hope its helping others. If there was an easy way to add video to this site it would be amazing. Short couple minute shots of this or that with an over riding explanation.