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Transfer pumps and machine oils/grease

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For those of you who pump washes with those metal housing pumps have you ever had any issue with oils or greases that are in them? I bought a 12v Drummond pump from Harbor Freight and after I tested it on just regular water I noticed a clear grease in the outlet side. Not sure if its a packing grease to keep it from corroding or if its in the internals for lubrication, either way it was in the pump. I hooked it back up and let it run 5-10 minutes and I don't visually see anything but that doesnt mean it isn't all gone. Just curious if anyone's noticed it or had any issues with it, I really dont like the idea of any of that finding its way into my boiler.

Before anyone recommends a racking cane I make alot of wash at a time and save it for future uses and it would take way too long to use that
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These brew pumps with stainless steel housings have 'magnetic drive' impellers. That means there's no shaft or lubricated parts in contact with the fluid being transferred.
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I use a vacuum pump system to transfer. It works well with transferring into carboys from a 50g hdpe barrel and I never need to lift a full carboy.

I once purchased a pump that uses a drill to operate and move liquid - It also had some sort of grease/lubricant in the device so put it in the bin for "other projects, not distilling/wine/mash"...

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Salt Must Flow wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 11:00 am These brew pumps with stainless steel housings have 'magnetic drive' impellers. That means there's no shaft or lubricated parts in contact with the fluid being transferred.
I reckon Ill be looking for one then.
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jonnys_spirit wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 11:17 am I use a vacuum pump system to transfer. It works well with transferring into carboys from a 50g hdpe barrel and I never need to lift a full carboy.

I once purchased a pump that uses a drill to operate and move liquid - It also had some sort of grease/lubricant in the device so put it in the bin for "other projects, not distilling/wine/mash"...

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Thats about what Im doing too. You have any personal recommendation for a good one?
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00Buck wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 11:37 am
jonnys_spirit wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 11:17 am I use a vacuum pump system to transfer. It works well with transferring into carboys from a 50g hdpe barrel and I never need to lift a full carboy.

I once purchased a pump that uses a drill to operate and move liquid - It also had some sort of grease/lubricant in the device so put it in the bin for "other projects, not distilling/wine/mash"...

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jonny
Thats about what Im doing too. You have any personal recommendation for a good one?
I started with this:
https://allinonewinepump.com/

And later purchased this to use as my primary vacuum pump with some of the AIO accessories/canes/bungs/etc:
https://www.sterlitech.com/rocker-300-v ... sLcnxQxPTm

The Sterlitech is a lab-grade pump and can be serviced - seals/filters replaced. Oilless. HVAC vacuum pumps are typically oil based and I believe they mist an oil vapor out which I was not interested in so I spec'd the lab pump and would recommend it if that's appealing to you.

The AIO system also works great for bottling large quantities of wine and de-gassing as wine bulk ages under vacuum seal. I purchased initially for wine-making but also use it for transferring distillers beer.

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I’ve been using one of these for close to ten years now. I had the option for a plastic or SS head . The bloke at the brew shop told me not to waste my money on the SS one . Well its still running and gets used all the time . Only issue is that it tends to cavitate when pumping boiling hot liquids requiring me to switch off power , to let the air bubble up and switch on again .

https://www.thebrewshop.com.au/high-tem ... gL_z_D_BwE
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I'm a fan of the spikes flow pumps

https://spikebrewing.com/products/spike-flow
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Yummy, I put a ball valve on the output of my 25+ yr old March mag drive pump. I can throttle the output down a bit and the cavitation stops when transferring boiling liquid. I guess it builds up a bit of pressure on the input side because it is restricted a bit.
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higgins wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 3:54 pm Yummy, I put a ball valve on the output of my 25+ yr old March mag drive pump. I can throttle the output down a bit and the cavitation stops when transferring boiling liquid. I guess it builds up a bit of pressure on the input side because it is restricted a bit.
Good tip Higgins . Will give it a crack next time :thumbup:
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As I’m rather new to the Distilling world my opinion ain’t worth much but this is the pump I use. It is a magnetically driven model as was mentioned above.
Top tier IMO.
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Yummyrum wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 2:03 pm I’ve been using one of these for close to ten years now.

https://www.thebrewshop.com.au/high-tem ... gL_z_D_BwE

According to that website ...

The High Temperature Magnetic Drive Pump excels in transferring heat-intensive fluids up to 1,200 degrees Celsius


Really !?!
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I always use a 1/2hp "elcheapo" sump pump to transfer wash. Bigger than that makes any drama happen faster.
To clean the pump before the first use, put in a bucket with soapy water.
Make sure the outlet hose is firmly anchored and pointing back into the bucket before turning the pump on. :lol:
After a couple minutes, shut it off and rinse the pump, hose and bucket with clean water before use.
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greggn wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 4:48 pm
Yummyrum wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 2:03 pm I’ve been using one of these for close to ten years now.

https://www.thebrewshop.com.au/high-tem ... gL_z_D_BwE

According to that website ...

The High Temperature Magnetic Drive Pump excels in transferring heat-intensive fluids up to 1,200 degrees Celsius


Really !?!
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The pump is just what I've been looking for, it will be perfect for pumping molten aluminum for casting engine parts. :lol:

"The High Temperature Magnetic Drive Pump excels in transferring heat-intensive fluids up to 1,200 degrees Celsius without leaks"
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