How do you pronounce "Liebig"

[T-Pee]

Silent "g", short "e". Otherwise, just how it's spelled.

tp (son of a USC Doctorate in Ed.)

[Prairiepiss]

Del-flega-ma-giggy. Or del-flega--ma-wha-chit.

[S-Cackalacky]

Words I never heard before, I usually pronounce the way they look. So, to me I will continue to pronounce it to myself as lie-big. It could very well be one of those words that I'll never speak to another person.

Some words just simply defy a single pronunciation. Take the word "oil". In S. Cack and other places in the South it would be pronounced ol - like you're saying the two letters seperately, O and L, but not el, just the sound L - kinda like owl, but with a hard o. I know a lady from Texax says, "all". People up North say, "o-eel" - what's up with that?

I thought they put an r in it down south. Earl. LOL

And its wooshter shister shister sauce.

The wife and I get into it about panela. I pronounce it pa-nil-a. Dint ask why. She always says you mean pa-ne-a? I just say yeah brown sugar. LOL

Mr. P, you showin' your ignernce of the Southern dialect.

[heartcut]

Dee flem ate her
Ebullition, anyone?
Sounds like that stuff that made monkeys come out of the trees.

[googe]

de~phleg~mate~or

[Jimbo]

An anti phleg maker?

[Hound Dog]

Isn't that something you need when you have a cold?

[Jimbo]

Right? Can I just pour some Robitussin DM in?

[ga flatwoods]

Mr. P, you showin' your ignernce of the Southern dialect.


SC ya spelt ignert wrong! And it it de-fleg-mater long A as in tamater like catchup made from.
GA Flatwoods

[Jimbo]

You spelt ketchup wrong flatwuds

[Prairiepiss]

Well its been 14 years since I lived in the south. And I was a transplant there anyway. They all called me a yank down there. But after we moved back up here. Everyone though I was from the south. LOL

[Soggy Bottom Boy]

Mr. P, you showin' your ignernce of the Southern dialect.


SC ya spelt ignert wrong! And it it de-fleg-mater long A as in tamater like catchup made from.
GA Flatwoods

You spelt ketchup wrong flatwuds

A little history on:

Ketchup was one of the earliest names given to this condiment, so spelled in Charles Lockyer’s book of 1711, An Account of the Trade in India: “Soy comes in Tubbs from Jappan, and the best Ketchup from Tonquin; yet good of both sorts are made and sold very cheap in China”. Nobody seems quite sure where it comes from, and I won’t bore you with a long disquisition concerning the scholarly debate on the matter, which is reflected in the varied origins given in major dictionaries. It’s likely to be from a Chinese dialect, imported into English through Malay. The original was a kind of fish sauce, though the modern Malay and Indonesian version, with the closely related name kecap, is a soy sauce.
Like their Eastern forerunners, Western ketchups were dipping sauces. I’m told the first ketchup recipe appeared in Elizabeth Smith’s book The Compleat Housewife of 1727 and that it included anchovies, shallots, vinegar, white wine, sweet spices (cloves, ginger, mace, nutmeg), pepper and lemon peel. Not a tomato in sight, you will note — tomato ketchup was not introduced until about a century later, in the US, and caught on only slowly. It was more usual to base the condiment on mushrooms, or sometimes walnuts.
The confusion about names started even before Charles Lockyer wrote about it, since there is an entry dated 1690 in the Dictionary of the Canting Crew which gives it as catchup, which is another Anglicisation of the original Eastern term. Catchup was used much more in North America than in Britain: it was still common in the middle years of the nineteenth century, as in a story in Scribner’s Magazine in 1859: “I do not object to take a few slices of cold boiled ham ... with a little mushroom catchup, some Worcester sauce, and a pickle or so”. Indeed, catchup continued to appear in American works for some decades and is still to be found on occasion.
There were lots of other spellings, too, of which catsup is the best known, a modification of catchup. You can blame Jonathan Swift for it if you like, since he used it first in 1730: “And, for our home-bred British cheer, Botargo, catsup, and caveer”. [Caveer is caviar; botargo is a fish-based relish made of the roe of the mullet or tunny.] That form was also once common in the US but is much less so these days, at least on bottle labels: all the big US manufacturers now call their product ketchup.

[ga flatwoods]

Thanks Soggy. I knew all that but always beneficial to educate the masses

[heartcut]

In 1801, a recipe for tomato ketchup was created by Sandy Addison and was printed in an American cookbook, the Sugar House Book.

1.Get the tomatoes quite ripe on a dry day, squeeze them with your hands till reduced to a pulp, then put half a pound of fine salt to one hundred tomatoes, and boil them for two hours.
2.Stir them to prevent burning.
3.While hot press them through a fine sieve, with a silver spoon till nought but the skin remains, then add a little mace, 3 nutmegs, allspice, cloves, cinnamon, ginger, and pepper to taste.
4.Boil over a slow fire till quite thick, stir all the time.
5.Bottle when cold.
6.One hundred tomatoes will make four or five bottles and keep good for two or three years.

Now how do you say cat soup really?

[Hound Dog]

Now how do you say cat soup really?

Here kitty kitty..... Mmm mm mm good!

[thecroweater]

To my ears English (true English) is spoken by very few English and pretty much no yanks but after saying that I do enjoy hearing your many varying renderings of it

dephlegmator: reflux condenser = (phonetic) arsey
Ketchup : tomato sauce = (colloquial) dead horse
Now to my ears you guys say kechep and tomato as tumaita, something like our eastern staters do but we say it like tomarto in south oz.
Ketchup is not a common term here but you can buy it, its kinda like home brand tomato sauce, also what you get at Macca's and burger king (hungry Jacks)

[Woodpile]

It is pronounced lie-big as long as you pronounce the fuel di -sel

German words, both of them, and pronounced the same way

dee sel
lee big

Unless, of course, the whole controversy was about the letter "g" - which the Germans pronounce "hard" as if it were a "k"

[W Pappy]

Worked with a guy one time that got a new dog I ask him what breed it was,he said it was whotwire.I was like what the hell is that I know dogs and never heard of them.He starts telling me all about them a great guard dog and all that jaz.I start thinking so I ask you talkin bout Rottweiler yea that's what I said he says.I got that damn word in my head and could not pronounce Rottweiler correct for 3 damned days.

[heartcut]

That's funny!
I've been brushing up on French for an upcoming trip and can't pronounce anything now without clearing my throat.

[T-Pee]

Learn to speak French with the "southern" (read Riviera) drawl. They'll know the difference,

tp (btdt)

[Soggy Bottom Boy]

Using Parisian French on the Côte d'Azur will get you the cold shoulder from the locals, for sure. But if using Parisian French with an American accent, they will cut you some slack for making the effort of speaking French, instead of just starting a conversation in English.

I miss the Riviera of the early '60s, as it has changed so much. It is now just overcrowded, almost impossible to find a parking spot on the street, and a lot of the "old school" charm and tradition is disappearing fast, as the pre-WWII denizens are dying out and the modern (non)values of their youthful replacements take over. :'-(
....C'est une grande horreur!

[T-Pee]

Spent my entire Freshman year traveling Europe in '69-'70. Our "home base" was in Biot and I went to a French school in Antibes. I certainly developed a lifelong appreciation for the 19th century French Impressionists. What a place of wonder back then.

Mom was fluent at the time. She considers her greatest achievement that year speaking French in Paris at a museum and having the museum curator answer her in like fashion not realizing she was "les americain".
I'm sure you're aware that when Parisians catch you out they look down their nose and answer you "en englais".

tp

[der wo]

You can hear the correct pronouncing of "Liebig" by clicking on the links and then on the little blue triangle on the left side.

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Perhaps you notice there is only one way to pronounce the "lie". But two for the "g":
The hard "g" (first link) is south Germany, Austria and Switzerland, the soft (second link) ending is north Germany. And there are some small regions where you pronounce it "sh" like "wish", "lee-bish".
Justus von Liebig was born in middle west Germany near Frankfurt, one of the regions where you can find all three versions, so all three are ok. But in future first the "sh", then the nothern version will die out, the hard "g" will displace them. So "lee-big" should be the only choice for the modern homedistiller.

der wo

[der wo]

Oh, and the "g" is something between "dig" and "dick".

[thecroweater]

My roots are Prussian Lutherans and grew up around them, even after six or more generations they still use it in some places. I grew up around Liebigs my sisters Godmother was a Liebig, it wade phonetically pronounced Lee- bik either an emphasis on the k

[pulsetech]

To my ears English (true English) is spoken by very few English and pretty much no yanks but after saying that I do enjoy hearing your many varying renderings of it

dephlegmator: reflux condenser = (phonetic) arsey
Ketchup : tomato sauce = (colloquial) dead horse
Now to my ears you guys say kechep and tomato as tumaita, something like our eastern staters do but we say it like tomarto in south oz.
Ketchup is not a common term here but you can buy it, its kinda like home brand tomato sauce, also what you get at Macca's and burger king (hungry Jacks)

Leibig = PeeCee
Shotgun Condenser = Shotty
Stainless Steel = Staino
Filter = Crap Trap

To Name a few

[der wo]

Liebigs region fell to Prussia 1868. But Liebig was born 1803. So he was not prussian.

my sisters Godmother was a Liebig, it wade phonetically pronounced Lee- bik either an emphasis on the k

Thats definitely wrong today. The emphasis has to be on the first syllable. But perhaps it was not wrong at the time your family emigrated. There are small regions outside western europe where immigrants from Germany speak still german and it sounds totally different, because they did not develop their speech as in their homeland, they still speak like the Germans at the time they emigrated.
And if you emphasize the first syllable, the difference between g k or ck is imperceptible.