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Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:17 pm
by bullpeters
2" column
Beer keg
2k watts heater
optimum height for 95%
I bet its in the parent board but i "cant find it/ busy wiring new tone arm"
Please help
Mick

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 10:42 pm
by olddog
What do you want spoon feeding? sorry we do not do that here. Sometimes you have just got to do something yourself especially with basic questions. :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:


OD

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:32 pm
by bullpeters
thats what i love about this forum, the crusty replies! I am a member of several online forums and this is consistently the most, not "Hostile", but not new user friendly.. Geez Old Dog, i wasnt asking to borrow money, just a few ideas. Just a general poll off what the most popular height, but i guess i better "pay my dues".
I will be sure not to post anything in the future that will cause u to use your brain, (in deleted fuckwit, because i had been drinking, and its rude)

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:34 pm
by bullpeters
and you are an Australian, makes it worse

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:36 pm
by bullpeters
and do you even know the answer?? I beat that you don't post!?!?

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:41 pm
by olddog
I do know the answer but that would make it too easy for you, there is a search box at the top right of this page, why not use it. You could also look in the design a plans section, you might learn a bit more there. :lolno:


OD

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:46 pm
by bullpeters
Did already, no answer for Optimum height 2' column. or any varients. Sorry for being a rude dick.! Very sorry. But why make me jump thru hoops. i am already committed to making my own still, i am just finishing the design. i am adding, not taking away from the group knowledge.Why the barrier

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:51 pm
by bullpeters
The major complaint i have about this really great forum is, based on other , far more dangerous hobbies that i have, there is a real "you get nothing for free, and we don't like any crazy new ideas" philosophy here. People have been doing this stuff for 2k plus years, do you think that you have anything original? Geez, i would think that you would be encouraging people to come up with off the wall ideas to move it all along. You boil it you condense it u drink it? = Please show me another way?

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:57 pm
by olddog
bullpeters wrote:Geez, i would think that you would be encouraging people to come up with off the wall ideas to move it all along.
You obviously have not noticed any of my designs, but I worked them out for myself.
Ok for a reflux column you work on a ratio of 24-1, so for a 2"column it would be 48"to the takeoff.
BTW what type of tonearm were you re-wiring? a Grace? Black Widow? SME? they should not take long at all to rewire.


OD

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:03 am
by bullpeters
A technics 1200. please dont groan, i have done some serious mods, i run it thru a nice Leak amp i rebuilt and a home made pre, and some KEF boxes. Sorry if i sounded off, i really like DIY AUDIO, it really encourages experimentation and i must say, this site doesnt. I think 500v is more dangerous than alcohol and water. Not trying to change the world but just wanted some ideas before i cut the pipe
much love
mick

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:01 am
by Prairiepiss
Open mouth insert spoon.

By the way. This question has been asked twice in the last month or so. And you can't take the time to find the answer. And what other answers have you passed over by not taking the time to read what should be read. If you don't have time to find that do you have the time to safely run a still? I know the safety concern is low on your priority list. But it is a potential bomb you are building. Not something to dismiss in my opinion. :wtf:

Rush rush rush.

You obviously haven't done much reading here or you would have known OldDog is one of the best most accomplished builders and has given more to this site in way of new ideas then most. I know I look up to him and listen to what he has to say. Even though he is suppose to be in retirement from this stuff. I'm really surprised he gave you the spoon that fast. :lol:

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:26 am
by rad14701
bullpeters, the Old Parent Site as well as the New Parent Site, which is a work in progress, are valuable assets... I prefer the old site because it is more complete... The section on Reflux Still Design should be helpful...

There's more than enough existing information here for your use and if you take the time to do ample research you will find that a lot of new research has been done and even more would be done if we weren't constantly spoon feeding new members who can do little but complain about how we never bring any new ideas to the table... We could wade through the many topics that cover the design you are building in great detail and post the links here but that would require work on our part that new members should be doing themselves because they will learn more than they realize they need to know throughout the process...

Here's some advice... Take the time to learn everything and then come back once you have come up with something new and proven, or need help in confirming your findings... Some of us who are here every day would welcome productive participation, especially if it means learning something new... :thumbup:

Time spent whining would be better spent researching and learning... :idea: That that advice at face value as there is no hidden meaning to be sought out within... :problem:

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:02 pm
by roadgold
Being a newbi myself i found this thread and many others looking for answers that are not in them, i have a large file of many still designs and pics that i have saved from the forum here and others but have to guess on a lot if the measurements. I feel confident that i could build a VM or LM if i wanted with the knowledge i have collected. But as for now i want to build a simple pot still column to use with my 1/2" x 1" x35" liebig i built with turbulence dams in the water flow area. My question is will i lose a lot of flavor with a 2 x24" column on a pot still 15 gal keg or should i be in the 12'-18 inch range. OK flame away i am ready for the flogging

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:17 pm
by Prairiepiss
You aren't going to loose much if any. My still is a cm/pot still. Mine is 31" from the keg to the takeoff. I get plenty of flavor in pot still mode. And I even leave mine packed while I run it in pot still mode.

Just build it to your situation. If it needs to be this tall and come over here for collecting. So be it. Build it. On this scale we work with you aren't going to have much influence if you could tell any at all.

The only time it makes a difference is when you are building a reflux still.

Good luck.

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 1:41 pm
by roadgold
thank you Prairiepiss that was painless LoL now that i have the Answers i was looking for I can concentrate on building my PID heating controller.

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:01 pm
by sthudium
Just a suggestion...As a newbie, I have found that it can be difficult to find information at this site. I would suggest that the time spent by the experts in brow-beating newbies would be more productively spent organizing all of this wonderful information in a wiki, with links to pertinent threads ... oh wait, there is a wiki, but it is broken. No wonder many newbies are frustrated. Well, just a suggestion. I remember reading a thread that Mr. P posted as a newbie about his idea for a modular still and how frustrated he was about getting no responses. I think it is a sorry shame that all of this collective wisdom is not distilled into tutorials and other avenues for dispensing information to newbies. Maybe a tutorial or two might relieve the experts from answering basic questions.

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:48 pm
by Kiwikeg
No dont change a thing about this site its so good to be able to read read read, bookmark read somemore. there is so much information buried in the threads and links, crazy ideas i bought 100 old US pennys today just in case sungys http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25960 crazy 3" design actually works - hope it does sungy. Had a question about oily film on my tail cuts but a half hour of reading gave me the answer and more so I bookmarked that and read on... this is the best home distilling resource around I have been been reading the forums everyday since I found it and best of all no one is trying to sell you nothing. Cheers uncle jesse, samohon, old dog, odin, rad14701, mule kicker et al you guys are the prothets leading us out of a desert of turbos, essences, carbon filters and duplast stills...

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:56 am
by rad14701
sthudium wrote:Just a suggestion...As a newbie, I have found that it can be difficult to find information at this site. I would suggest that the time spent by the experts in brow-beating newbies would be more productively spent organizing all of this wonderful information in a wiki, with links to pertinent threads ... oh wait, there is a wiki, but it is broken. No wonder many newbies are frustrated. Well, just a suggestion. I remember reading a thread that Mr. P posted as a newbie about his idea for a modular still and how frustrated he was about getting no responses. I think it is a sorry shame that all of this collective wisdom is not distilled into tutorials and other avenues for dispensing information to newbies. Maybe a tutorial or two might relieve the experts from answering basic questions.
Perhaps you'd like to get yourself up to speed so you can help out because we are more than busy enough for what we get paid, which is nothing... Seems it's always the novices who have all the ideas, like use seasoned members don't have a clue as to what goes on around here...

The reason you newbies, as you call yourself, are confused is because you'd rather be spoon fed than do some actual independent research... You want instant gratification rather than investing time and effort like those who actually know something have...

sthudium, your time would be better spent educating yourself rather than wasting time trying to tell others the management here how do their jobs... I'm still on page 4 of the active topics and it's already mid-afternoon... That means I still have 4 pages to work my way through today... And the posts keep coming... How much reading do you do in a day, sthudium...??? And how many people do you actually help...???

Sheesh...!!! :problem:

Sorry, folks... :shifty: Posts like this just piss me off... :think:

Re: Optimum 2" column height

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:02 pm
by sthudium
Point taken... pls accept my apology. And thanks for all your hard work and time.