water temp / water rate

[Guest]

how fast do you run the water through the condensor at what water temp?
i want the most effiecent so not to waste to much water.

cheers

[Grayson_Stewart]

You would need a thermodynamics, mechanics of materials, and a hydraulics class along with ALOT more information on your system and it's operation to answer that question.

[Yttrium]

I usually adjust the cooling water flow until it hurts to touch the used cooling water.

[Guest]

so the still spirits site is al lies saying to run your water at 500mls per minute?

[Tater]

looks like this guy just wants to argue maybe he should read http://homedistiller.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow what youall think lol

[Guest]

i am not arguing just that i am doing my first run today and trying to find out if the difference in water temp effects the outcome of the run. 500mls sounds to much so i was wondering what you guys thought.

[knuklehead]

Guest, the rate of flow for your water supply really depends on what kind of still you are using.

[Grayson_Stewart]

You originally asked the speed and temperature of water to run through a condensor. Thats an impossible question to answer with the amount of information you gave in your first post. Nobody knew the size of your condensor or the power input you were using.

The answers you got from Holy and Yttrium were spot on for the amount of info you gave. What they said will work to find the most efficient use provided your condensor can handle your system.

Then you come back sounding rather hostile inferring that others are implied the still spirits site of lying. I am not familiar with one of those and 500 ml may very well be the amount required to meet the needs of that particular still.

And to this point, we still don't know if you have a still spirits still, just read that cooling rate from their site and want to apply it to a still you built, or what the case may be.

The advice Tater gave you to read the website was a way of letting you know that reading the site would show you the parameters you would need to calculate the cooling water flow rate and temperatures and that there are differences for each still.

[Guest]

yeah sorry if it seemed that i was hostile but quite the opposite and sorry that you interprated it that way. i wasn't saying that any of you were lying i would trust you all rather than a commerical site.

well have a still spirit still. super reflux condensor with a 25ltr 3in1 fermenter 1000 watt( not sure about the wattage)

[Guest]

Firstly the simple answer is you run enough water at a rate to cool all the vapour. So if your concerned about wasting water because you are running it too fast. then get a small pond pump and re-cyle the water into a bucket or sink. put a few frozen drink bottles in the bucket and you can run the same water around and around and around. Not a drop is wasted. you may need to add extra ice during the run but that really depends on how big your batch is.

[Guest]

cheers thank you very much

[Yttrium]

put a few frozen drink bottles in the bucket and you can run the same water around and around and around. Not a drop is wasted.

Although you may not waste any water with that method, how much electricy are you wasting freezing water? I guess if I was paying for water and not electricy, I would use that method.

[Fourway]

how much electricy are you wasting freezing water?

Around here you can lay a 50 foot hose out through the snow in the back yard and push your recycled cooling water through that with your pond pump.
Works a treat.

[Guest]

I dont know how to use the quote fuction yet so I will just copy your text.

Yttirum, Wrote

"Although you may not waste any water with that method, how much electricy are you wasting freezing water? I guess if I was paying for water and not electricy, I would use that method."


My freezer is running all the time to freeze meat and other frozen foods, so freezing drink bottles doesn't really cost any more! Well it may cost a faction more as the compressor may have to run a little bit extra to bring the temp of the freezer back down when I first put bottles in. But then again once the bottles are frozen they actually keep the freezer at or close to 0 deg C and so the compressor doesn't need to run as often. So in fact I think I am saving electricity by freezing bottles and keeping them in my freezer. And if the power ever goes off the frozen bottles will keep the food from defrosting and going off so again I am saving money because I don't need to buy new food.

[Yttrium]

Well it may cost a faction more as the compressor may have to run a little bit extra to bring the temp of the freezer back down when I first put bottles in.

Water gives off a significant amount of heat when it freezes, much more than when it is cooled a few degrees

But then again once the bottles are frozen they actually keep the freezer at or close to 0 deg C and so the compressor doesn't need to run as often.

The heat transfer into your freezer should be the same whether or not there are bottles of frozen ice in there.

if the power ever goes off the frozen bottles will keep the food from defrosting and going off so again I am saving money because I don't need to buy new food.

This is true, but how often does your power go off for a long enough period of time for the food in your freezer to go bad. Also, of the times that the freezer goes off for a long enough time, in how many instances would few extra hours that the frozen bottles of water add make a difference???

[drunkmore]

Gee this place gets more imformative every day
How about running a radiator with anti freeze/boil in it.
Works in a car why not in a still.
Well for one i guese a car only needs cooling to 90 deg C or there abouts
so i spose thats a little hot for what we want. mind you a big fan on the radiator might keep it way cooler.
Shit you would want a leak in the wrong place, being that anti freeze/boil is rather toxic.

[The Chemist]

Just caught that one, Fourway (from Feb. 15). I wouldn't have expected much snow in "The Hinges of Hades"

[Fourway]

Just caught that one, Fourway (from Feb. 15). I wouldn't have expected much snow in "The Hinges of Hades"

Oh don't kid yourself, it's been mighty cold here ever since the Red Sox won the series.

[Josesillo]

Fourway wrote:

Around here you can lay a 50 foot hose out through the snow in the back yard and push your recycled cooling water through that with your pond pump.
Works a treat.

i don't think that would work for me we havent seen snow around here since the last ice age ,
street water here comes around 25ºC i just made a small copper coil and placed it in a large bucket with some ice bottles it works just perfect and the water returns to the main water tank or the pool if i want so no water is lost