Metamucil

Post by **LWTCS** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:30 pm

Ok, let me preface this question with a request to Fester...........This is serious business at hand here. Sir, please restrain and edit your self before pummeling

Anybody ever use this for yeast nutrients?

pumpman · Post by **pumpman** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 4:33 pm

Let me know how that one works for you.

Post by **rad14701** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:28 pm

I think I've heard Metamucil mentioned associated with a recipe somewhere but I can't recall where... I surf about so much it's hard to keep track...

I just read the nutritional information and I don't see much in it other than Psyllium Husk, Maltodextrin, and Citric Acid... If you have some on hand it might be worth trying but I wouldn't make a special purchase for use my my wash, personally...

Post by **LWTCS** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:35 pm

Agreed rad.

I was whipping up a rum wash last night and started contemplating. But I'm trying to keep my rum plan intact and don't want to add anymore variables. BTW, gerber in the (rum) wash is going very well.

I will definitely test it out as we do keep it in the house. And my I say,,,,,,,it would seem that,,,, the yeast would,,,,,,,,,,,,,,appreciate it.

Ok Fester, thats your Q

Post by **rad14701** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:42 pm

LWTCS wrote:BTW, gerber in the (rum) wash is going very well.

So, is this a Brown Sugar Gerber wash...???

Post by **LWTCS** » Sat Jul 11, 2009 5:51 pm

One with (7) panela blocks and (1) molassas

And one with (7) light brown sugar and (1) molassas.

Edit: actually 2 with panela blocks now.

pumpman · Post by **pumpman** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 10:43 am

LWTCS my gerber rum was prety dry a couple days ago. It worked off good now I need to rack it.

Post by **LWTCS** » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:22 am

I'm stripping (and a drankin) today.

Post by **LWTCS** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:06 pm

Ok, not much interest in the metamucil. Perhaps the stigma,,,,,,,thang.

No matter. Here is the update:
I did not want to test this while trying to establish multiple generations of rum, but i just don't have the extra time to get side tracked on an experiment. So I crowbared this into my rum cycle and thank goodness it seems to be taking off really well.

If any one has used Metamucil then you know that the stuff will swell/expand if not immediately consumed. Kind of like a membrane sort of consistacy. Very similar to how yeast can expand and multiply when making a starter or the like. I am not sure if this phenomena
aids the ferment cycle or not. But the friggin thing looks like a lava bed.

Perhaps this helps to suspend the solids within the wash giving the yeast better access to nutrients or some such damn thing?
I have not yet had any of my rum washes react so aggressively.

That is not to say that this is good as such. Its just that,,,,,,I have not had a ferment this aggressive since my Bran Wash cycle.

pumpman · Post by **pumpman** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:12 am

Damn good thing you got a big bucket

jsanders · Post by **jsanders** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:00 am

That looks like what I usually do when I take metamucil!!!

Post by **LWTCS** » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:38 pm

jsanders wrote:That looks like what I usually do when I take metamucil!!!

I know, right..... I mean,,,, I don't know what you are talking about for heavens sake!

Well, I don't want to further stigmatize the meta poopcil (oh there I go again) so I shall refrain from making less than dignified comments

Breif update:
I was concerned that the wash may stall due to some ingreadient or the like.
But it is still going stong.

I added 4 table spoons to the 20 liter volume. I think I may add a little more (next batch) and see how far it can be pushed.

HooBilly · Post by **HooBilly** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:01 pm

Ah yep, looks like used Metamucil to me. Any off tastes to the final product?

Post by **LWTCS** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:12 pm

HooBilly wrote:Ah yep, looks like used Metamucil to me. Any off tastes to the final product?

Looks like its finishing up by tonight. I'll rack it in a day or so.

It appears that all suspended solids have settled down except for the membrane like (metamucil) cap. The cap was very well intact. I pushed on it to get a spoon in for a taste.

Smells just fine and tastes dry. I don't have any testing tools yet but it tastes pretty alcoholey.

Friggin cap looks like shite though.

I won't know about off tastes till next week. My still is charged with last weeks batch now.

snuffy · Post by **snuffy** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:06 pm

Um, what's the purpose? I'm a little puzzled.

Here's the ingredients -- there are several different formulations. http://www.metamucil.com/drmetamucil/pr ... info.shtml" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Maltodextrin is pretty fermentable. Not sure about the psyllium husks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psyllium_seed_husks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Post by **LWTCS** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 4:28 am

Thanks for the links Snuffy. I do have that (orange) product information on the container.

Purpose?

Well,,,,
*I was curious to see if anyone had ever tried Metamucil as a yeast nutrient or the like.
*I am looking to see if this material would or could augment any part of the ferment.
*I was hoping to get some responce and further dialog from much smarter and more experienced stillers than I.
*Like my vitiman water likker experiment, I wanted to conclude if this material should be crossed off the list or continue using.

Aside from the topic of,,,,,,,,,,,,,"Hi, newbie here.. And I'd like to know what the temperature of my pot still should be" or " I just spent $897.49 on my new reflux column. Can someone explain to me how it works?" ..........

I'm just trying to generate some informative dialog (or perhaps not).

Cheers
Larry

Post by **rad14701** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 6:54 am

I'd propose that in order to make a conclusive determination of it's usefulness that it be testing with a simple sugar wash with alongside a duplicate wash without...

Post by **LWTCS** » Sat Jul 25, 2009 12:20 pm

Agreed.

I was impressed with the vigor compared to the my other rum batches. But even then I've done three recipes for four batches.

I now know that there was no obvious problems. But in order to get a useable bench mark, a side by side would be the only way for someone as unscientific as myself.

Post by **LWTCS** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:30 pm

Small update:

Settled out good when racked to the fridge in glass jugs. The wash seems to have slightly finer suspended particulates. Normally the solids pack down kinda nice after a few days in the fridge. But this batch seems to have a very fine layer on top that will easily stir up.

No off smell to speak of. I've got a bit of Gerber in there and thats really the only secondary smell comming through the rum wash.

Post by **Dnderhead** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 4:41 pm

I whould thank the way to test a nutrient whould be a sugar wash with and with out your test ingredient. if you have a mixture with other
ingredients/nutrients you wont know what did what.

Post by **LWTCS** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:34 pm

I agree with your assertion 100%

I really approached this experiment the wrong way.

I am typically always strapped for time and so I elected to force this ingredient into my rum cycle (out of curiosity).

(to date)My approach has only concluded that the ferment will clearly continue to completion.

Post by **goinbroke2** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 2:46 pm

I suspect the only thing you will find besides it finishing the same is when you drink it......
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(ok, SOMEBODY had to say it OK)?

Post by **LWTCS** » Sun Sep 13, 2009 3:32 pm

You know,,,,,,,,your right.

I did get shit faced.

Started another round this morning.

I prolly should do a better job of taking notes. But, I am almost positive I feel ten pounds lighter when the ferment finishes

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