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Postby rad14701 » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:50 pm

In my quest for the idiot-proof novice sugar wash recipe I have done a lot of experimenting... I may have come across the simplest sugar wash possible... I'd like members to give this recipe a try and give feedback on your results...

Now, because I still don't have my hydrometer and alcometer here at the apartment, I can't comment on actual results but the yeast was still active once the ferment had completed so more sugar could be added... I was shooting for about 12% ABV to be safe with bakers yeast rather than my usual 14%...

The Gerber Recipe (as tested - see notes below):
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Per 4 liters (1 gallon) of water:

Ingredients
* 3.5 cups sugar
* 4 liters water
* 1 cup Gerber Barley flavored baby cereal
* 2 tbsp active baking yeast

Process
* Simmer equal amounts of water and sugar for 30 minutes or longer to invert sugar.
* Combine boiled components with cold water and cereal to bring up to total volume.
* Let cool to 95F.
* Pitch yeast.
* Aerate for one hour.
* Cap and insert air lock.

Notes
* No lemon juice was used while inverting the sugar. Doing so may or may not be of benefit.
* A full cup of cereal may be more than required for a 4 liter batch. 3/4 cup should be enough.
* With all of the vitamins and minerals present within this cereal it appears that no other ingredients should be required.
* Should fully ferment dry within 7 days.
* The wash is almost clear by the time the ferment is complete so it can be racked directly into the boiler, leaving the solids behind.
* With this wash I collected approximately 1 liter of neutral spirit from 7 liters of wash.
* More alcohol was present than collected.
* Resulting "white dog" was clean and smooth, and should age well on oak if desired.
* This recipe should provide good results with pot stills or reflux stills.
* Essentially, 1 liter water, 1 cup sugar, 1/4 cup cereal, 1/2 tablespoon yeast, scaled to desired batch size...

Good Luck... Feedback welcome...
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Re: Gerber

Postby LWTCS » Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:55 pm

Rad,
I'm going to start this in a 20 liter batch tomorrow. I'll keep you posted.

ferment time, color, smell etc.

I'll follow your instructions, or would it be best to vary things a bit for the sake of base line results?

Although it seems that based on the other cereal/crumb recipes, the variables are most telling during distilling.
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Re: Gerber

Postby Trapperjones » Wed Apr 08, 2009 3:12 pm

Sounds like a nice easy wash. I'll give it a try with two 20 liter washes. The first wash I'll follow your recipe exactly. The second wash I'll add the cereal to the boiling water then invert the sugar with a 1/2 tsp citric acid. I'll post the results in a week or two. Seems to me that the cereal adds proteins that grow stronger yeast that are able to ferment higher cleaner washes. Mind you my target Abv is usually 10-12%. :roll:
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Re: Gerber

Postby Trapperjones » Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:00 am

Nice wash recipe! Simple and not messy! The wash I made adding the cereal to the boiling sugar solution then boiling it for an hour resulted in me losing another airlock. Within 3 hours of dropping my yeast starter it foamed up and blew the lock off! The wash I made following your recipe foamed up about 4-6 inches in the fermenter. It's been 5 days and they're still bubbling once every second. Once it stops bubbling I'll transfer the carboys outside to cool and clear then run each and compare taste and yield. From the smell of things this should make a nice whiskey! I'll post results next week.
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Re: Gerber

Postby rad14701 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:56 am

Glad to hear the comparison, Trapperjones...

Sounds like you're on target to finish pretty close to within a week which is very efficient for such a simple recipe... I might have to try the boiled cereal method myself now that you've proven how much of a difference it makes...

I ended up with about a liter of 80 proof from 7 liters of wash that's as smooth as any of my other spirits and didn't even require airing... There was more alcohol to be had but I didn't feel that it was worth the time using a small scale still... Let us know how distillation turns out...
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Re: Gerber

Postby goinbroke2 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:37 pm

How big is that box/how many cups of barley? Just wondering as I'll check the prices next time I'm in the store and compare to buying malted barley at the homebrew store.
I've done lots of cracked corn/sugar wash/purple passion/now have cran-raisin..this might be next!
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Re: Gerber

Postby rad14701 » Sun Apr 12, 2009 2:04 pm

goinbroke2 wrote:How big is that box/how many cups of barley? Just wondering as I'll check the prices next time I'm in the store and compare to buying malted barley at the homebrew store.
I've done lots of cracked corn/sugar wash/purple passion/now have cran-raisin..this might be next!

It's an 8oz box with about 3.75 cups of cereal that looks like instant mashed potato flakes... I think you might be able to stretch a box to do a 20 - 25 liter wash if you didn't want to go exactly by the recipe... The proportion part is what needs some refinement... From my results so far I'm guessing that about 3/4 cup per gallon/4 liters would suffice...
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Re: Gerber

Postby rad14701 » Mon Apr 13, 2009 5:49 pm

I started another batch today and added the cereal and some lemon juice during the invert sugar process to see what difference it makes... And as if that wasn't enough changes, I used more sugar and less cereal...
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Re: Gerber

Postby goinbroke2 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:58 am

rad14701 wrote:
goinbroke2 wrote:How big is that box/how many cups of barley? Just wondering as I'll check the prices next time I'm in the store and compare to buying malted barley at the homebrew store.
I've done lots of cracked corn/sugar wash/purple passion/now have cran-raisin..this might be next!

It's an 8oz box with about 3.75 cups of cereal that looks like instant mashed potato flakes... I think you might be able to stretch a box to do a 20 - 25 liter wash if you didn't want to go exactly by the recipe... The proportion part is what needs some refinement... From my results so far I'm guessing that about 3/4 cup per gallon/4 liters would suffice...


8oz box? Here it's 227g for $3.49 If it's the same box then that would be pretty good.
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Re: Gerber

Postby rad14701 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:19 am

goinbroke2 wrote:8oz box? Here it's 227g for $3.49 If it's the same box then that would be pretty good.

Same thing, goinbroke2... Just a little pricier in your area... There are several flavors but the Barley has the greatest nutritional value per "serving"...
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Re: Gerber

Postby PaulN » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:55 am

I love this one! It's simple and covert. No one would look at you funny if you're buying baby cereal, sugar, lemon juice, and baker's yeast at the grocery store. I need to give it a try at I run my current sugar wash.
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Re: Gerber

Postby rad14701 » Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:59 am

Here is a picture of an All Bran wash on the left and a Gerber Barley wash on the right... The right jug is slightly tinted green... Both are bubbling away quite happily...

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