Winding a double condenser coil for a 3" still head - OtisT

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Winding a double condenser coil for a 3" still head - OtisT

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I'm building my first still and decided to start small, with the Reflux Condenser.

[This is my first post, so I hope the pictures are posted properly]

I am planning for a 3" diameter pipe still head, so I know I can easily get two winds of the condenser coil inside it. I wound the inner coil around a 1" diameter pipe, and the outer coil around a 1 7/8" pipe. This allows for plenty of spacing between the coils as well as enough spacing between the outer coil and the still head, about 1/4". I made each coil separately, then soldered them together with a coupling when both coils were done. On the next still I make, I will do this process with one continuous piece of copper tubing.
Finished Double Coil Reflux Condenser
Finished Double Coil Reflux Condenser
To get the tight winds without crushing the 1/4" copper tubing, I packed the tube with salt. I did a test run with frozen water first in the tubing and that worked fine for a small section, but it melted way too quickly for this big of a project so I decided to pack the tubing with salt to get the tight winds. After making the coils, a friend who is a plumber shared with me that he has done this with water in the pipe, capping both ends before winding. I may try that next time, because while the salt was very effective, it was a lot of work.

How I did the salt packing. I found I could wind unpacked 1/4" tubing around a 4" diameter PVC pipe without crushing the copper tubing, so I started there. After the initial tight wind (no spacing between wraps), I stretched the coil out like a spring over the length of a 5’ long 4" diameter PVC pipe so it had a nice gradual slope to it when I turned the pipe on end. I plugged the bottom end with a small bolt and taped that end of the copper tubing in place to the PVC pipe.

I found filling the tube with salt to be quite slow, using a small 1/2 tsp spoon, so I made a machine using an old photographic film mixer and a paint roller that did most of the initial filling for me. My machine rotated the horizontal PVC pipe at a very slow rate. I bent the leading end of the tubing so that each rotation of the pipe scooped up a bit of salt from a pan of salt I place below it, and after running the machine for about 10 minutes the tube was full of unpacked salt and would not take any more.
Fill coil with Salt - Machine
Fill coil with Salt - Machine

I knew that the salt would need to be packed more tightly, so my next step was to turn the pipe on end and vibrate the salt down further, then added more salt (repeated many time.) This took about an hour.

Salt packing process. With the taped end down, I ran my hands up then down the length of the pipe with the tubing wrapped around it. (No rude comments please about what this looked like. Let's just say I'm naming my reflux coil Moby Dick. ;-). With the bottom of the tubing taped to the pipe, and the rest of the "spring" loose, the entire tube vibrated salt down as I ran my hands up/down the pipe, making room to top it off with more salt. I kept this up until vibrating the tube did not free up more space. I capped the open end of the tube with another small bolt to keep the salt in for the tight winding that came next.
Vibrating / Packing coil with Salt
Vibrating / Packing coil with Salt

Final Winding to 1” and 1 7/8” for condenser coils. Once packed with salt, I could easily hand wrap the 1/4" tubing around a 1" pipe with no deformation to the tubing. I did this wrap tight, with no space between wraps. To do the wrapping, I put the 4" coil of copper tubing on a 1" pipe, then secured the two ends of the 1” pipe so the pipe rotated freely. (Think of a toilet paper roll holder.) I put on some heavy gloves, held one end of the tubing securely against the pipe, and rotated the secure end while holding the loose coil end of the tubing tight against the pipe. I left about 8” unwrapped that would become the input/outlet section of the coil. This wrapping only took 5 minutes.

To space the coil with approximately 1/8” between wraps, I laid the tight coil on it's side, and pressed a Popsicle stick between the first 4 or 5 winds. I turned the coil over and did the same on the opposite side of those first few winds. I repeated this process until the entire coil was spaced. The spacing was not quite as much as I wanted with one stick, so I added a second stick to each wind. I was very happy with the results.
Spacing the condenser coil
Spacing the condenser coil
I had more coil than I needed, so I trimmed the coil to 10”. I used a dremmel tool with a cutoff wheel so the cut would be smooth and would not deform the tubing. with two separate coils, 1” ID and 1 7/8” ID, I joined them by making some small bend adjustments to line up the ends, then used a 1/2" long, 1/4" coupling. It took a little bit of fine bending to get the ends to line up, and in retrospect I should have made this out of one continuous piece of 1/4" tubing. (The second still I make will be beautiful ;-)

Attaching Coil to Cap. I measured the spacing of the input and output lines and drilled the cap so the coil would be centered. Next I drilled two large vent holes in the cap to ensure I don't blow up my still. :-)

Comments or suggestions for improving this process are welcome. I plan to make a second still, once this one is done and I get some serious experience distilling.

Enjoy,
OtisT
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Re: Winding a double condenser coil for a 3" still head - Ot

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Nice looking double helix condenser... Plenty big, that's for sure... In all actuality, you really didn't need to pack the copper before winding... As long as the mandrels are 3x the diameter of the tubing no packing is required... Your 1" mandrel is bigger than the 3/4" minimum so you were in good shape... Your added steps only work harden the copper, making kinks more likely... But if you didn't mind the extra time and effort, that's fine...

Keep at it and keep the pictures coming...
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Re: Winding a double condenser coil for a 3" still head - Ot

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That looks great!
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