Still on ebay.

brian41527 · Post by **brian41527** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:20 pm

I saw this this still while searching on ebay, would it be worth bidding $125 on?? http://cgi.ebay.com/MOONSHINE-ETHANOL-S ... dZViewItem" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Post by **MisterSteve124** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:41 pm

Well the still doesn't look that bad compared to others, but you could build something very similar yourself if you had any handyman skills for under half the price. Just buy a cheap pot at a store and attach some copper pipe and fittings and thats almost it. Unless you got money to burn I would read some stuff on this site and try making on yourself in a little bit.

junkyard dawg · Post by **junkyard dawg** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:42 pm

I don't care for that.

There are lots of others here that run that kind of still tho...

not sure about the thumper... the boiler is the cheapest thing that could work. sealing the lid is a pain in the ass... If you really wanna make some shine, and want a reasonable return on your investment then I would go a different route. depends on your space and resources... You can do a lot better for the money...

arkansas · Post by **arkansas** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 5:47 pm

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I wonder about this flange, this looks like galvized stuff, bad deal if it is, even if it is on top of the lid, it accepts the threads from the copper pipe, there will be some contact. It looks cool but, I have to wonder.

Post by **HookLine** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:02 pm

Hard to tell just from that photo. It could just as easily be stainless or aluminium.

arkansas · Post by **arkansas** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:17 pm

HookLine wrote:Hard to tell just from that photo. It could just as easily be stainless or aluminium.

I agree, just wonder I guess, looks kinda rough for stainless, but you are right, can't tell for sure what it is.

Cruisaire · Post by **Cruisaire** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:21 pm

Looks like zinc plate to my untrained eye. Oh and that pot looks identical to my latest cheapie SS pot I just got.

pintoshine · Post by **pintoshine** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:28 pm

that is a still from http://www.stilldrinkin.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow Several people have complained about non-delivery after payment and them not returning calls.
That is the model called the venom

Post by **HookLine** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:34 pm

Stainless can have a pretty rough finish, the smooth brushed or polished finish that a lot of stainless has is just to make it look good. The finish on my stainless keg connector looks very similar to that flange.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s197 ... ection.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Note the difference between the finish on the keg and column, and the finish on the fittings.

I sure hope that flange ain't zinc plated mild steel.

That would be seriously irresponsible, especially seeing as that is a 'professionally made' still.

Post by **Husker** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:40 pm

This is the still drinkin "venom". Yes, I have also heard many people complain about not receiving a still from those folks after paying for it.

I would avoid that still if I were you.

H.

Cruisaire · Post by **Cruisaire** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:53 pm

HookLine wrote:Stainless can have a pretty rough finish, the smooth brushed or polished finish that a lot of stainless has is just to make it look good. The finish on my stainless keg connector looks very similar to that flange.

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s197 ... ection.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Note the difference between the finish on the keg and column, and the finish on the fittings.

I sure hope that flange ain't zinc plated mild steel. That would be seriously irresponsible, especially seeing as that is a 'professionally made' still.

I see what you mean. Yours just looks less "bright" and has the characteristic dull gray I see in unpolished stainless.

grainhopper · Post by **grainhopper** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:07 pm

Pretty sure that is galvonized.

It has the same markings that a flange I have bought from Lowes, that I use on my boiler.

I wonder about this flange, this looks like galvized stuff, bad deal if it is, even if it is on top of the lid, it accepts the threads from the copper pipe, there will be some contact. It looks cool but, I have to wonder.

This is from the main page if this isnt the truth then I need to change my flange.

Galvanised Metals
Tarvus explains ...
Galvanised materials are not safe to use on the condenser side, but if it's part of the boiler or at the bottom end of the column, it should be fine (provided you don't boil so vigorously that your wash bubbles up through your column and into your collecting container. Toxic salts from metals can be dissolved in liquid, but remain behind when the liquid is vaporized (as in a reflux column).

For example, you could toss a handful of lead fishing sinkers into your boiler which could well leach toxic levels of lead into the wash. But once the vapor runs through the column, it's free of the lead salts and safe. If you used lead based solder (or galvanized parts) in your CONDENSER, that would be a different story. The hot liquid condensate could leach lead salts from soldered joints or zinc from the galvanized parts and you would wind up with contaminated product.

Post by **HookLine** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:28 pm

That is technically true, Grainhopper, but there are at least four problems with that:

1. Even the best still operator cannot gaurantee there will never be any boil over.

2. Galvanised finishes will corrode in the hostile environment within the boiler, exposing the raw metal underneath (usually mild steel), which will also corrode, possibly causing leaks.

3. Getting toxic metallic salts into the wash probably means that you cannot use the backset/dunder in subsequent ferments.

4. There will always be some klutz who doesn't get it and uses the wrong materials in the wrong place.

I reckon it is just a whole lot easier to completely avoid these materials, and stick to stainless or copper in the first place. The cost difference is not significant, especially over the lifetime of a still, and taking into account the safety/health issue.

punkin · Post by **punkin** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:24 pm

I use those flanges often. That is a galvanised flange, for what it's worth.

Say's in the ebay description that it's stainless (it's not), but it also says that the unit sold will come with a brass flange rather than that one, so i don't think it's worth getting too uptight about

goose eye · Post by **goose eye** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:14 am

looks like a ole base they put on platform they use to screw swivel on for speed bags. new some ole boys that use to box a long while back . use em bases for railins to.

so im tole

barrelcreator · Post by **barrelcreator** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:19 am

I just finsihed builind the "ministill". With a turkey fryer as the pot the whole thing cost me $90. If you are going to spend $100 buy or build the exact one you want. If this is the syle you want buy it. If not your price range will allow you to build the one you want. Just my 2 cents...

punkin · Post by **punkin** » Wed Dec 19, 2007 10:08 am

goose eye wrote:looks like a ole base they put on platform they use to screw swivel on for speed bags. new some ole boys that use to box a long while back . use em bases for railins to.

so im tole

It's a galvanised pipe flange, Goose.
You screw it too a piece of threaded 50mm (2") gal pipe, and you can bolt on other fittings for pumps, valves ect. You can get em in brass too. Maybe you could get em in stainless, but i've never seen em.

ChillinDistilln · Post by **ChillinDistilln** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:44 pm

I was bidding on the same still... but lost and in retrospect I was lucky.

Several minutes later the seller sent me a second chance offer, but I declined.

I put in a bid on another still on Ebay and won it for the same price, but it looks like a much better product:

http://cgi.ebay.com/5-gal-TILT-REFLUX-M ... dZViewItem" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

I bought this one.. as long as I receive it I'll be happy.

I started with a "wok" still and then used a Kenmore distiller and was never unhappy... but wanted a bit more. I think this will fit the bill.

I couldn't have built this for the same price. Again.. as long as I receive it I'll be happy!

goose eye · Post by **goose eye** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:56 am

punkin look up speedbag swivel .
they screw the swivel to the base - you callin it flange - srewed to platform.
there moren one use for thangs i guess kinda like corn

so im tole

punkin · Post by **punkin** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:06 am

goose eye wrote:punkin look up speedbag swivel .
they screw the swivel to the base - you callin it flange - srewed to platform.
there moren one use for thangs i guess kinda like corn

so im tole

Too true

grainhopper · Post by **grainhopper** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 11:33 am

HookLine wrote:That is technically true, Grainhopper, but there are at least four problems with that:

1. Even the best still operator cannot gaurantee there will never be any boil over.

2. Galvanised finishes will corrode in the hostile environment within the boiler, exposing the raw metal underneath (usually mild steel), which will also corrode, possibly causing leaks.

3. Getting toxic metallic salts into the wash probably means that you cannot use the backset/dunder in subsequent ferments.

4. There will always be some klutz who doesn't get it and uses the wrong materials in the wrong place.

I reckon it is just a whole lot easier to completely avoid these materials, and stick to stainless or copper in the first place. The cost difference is not significant, especially over the lifetime of a still, and taking into account the safety/health issue.

Well I made myself a makeshift flange that will be interchangable columns.
Here are some pictures.

I did this to stabilize it some.

: flange3.jpg (21.31 KiB) Viewed 1987 times

Post by **HookLine** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:09 pm

Nice job.

junkyard dawg · Post by **junkyard dawg** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:15 pm

yeah, nice job.

I love homemade stuff. I learned a lot of stuff from a guy that always said handmade is always better. I believe he was right.