looking for a simple corn likker recipe

[thefarmer355]

I'm looking for a simple corn likker recipe for a 50 gallon ferment. i have a simple keg pot still set up and want to make a few runs out of one ferment. thanks guys for any replies.

[rad14701]

Greetings, thefarmer355...

You might want to try UJSSM if you're just getting started...

[thefarmer355]

greetings to you too as well rad, and thanks for the advice i believe i will try the 40l version. much appreciated

[olddog]

UJSSM works well, especially when you can get into a few generations, it gets better.

[thefarmer355]

by generations you mean taking some old corn out and adding new and so on? i've often wondered how that ended up after 2 or 3 mashes. I have a little over 1000 bushels of corn and a hammer mill so if i mess up the taking and adding then i can start over without much fuss.

[olddog]

Some members have taken it to more than 10 generations. The longer it goes the better it gets.

[Husker]

UJSM is a simple corn 'flavored' sugar moonshine wash.

If you are looking to really 'use' the corn to make the ethanol, then UJSM is not the recipe to use.

The 'generations', is more on how many times you have used the yeast bed and backset/dunder from the prior run(s). With UJSM, it also does 'use' some corn each new generation. You do keep the old corn in (adding a little new, and removing the white 'spent' corn). The starch does slowly release and get partly consumed due to the high acidic environment, and time. But it is only a tiny release, and just a small part of the ethanol produced. Almost all of the ethanol in UJSM comes from the sugar.

What thefarmer is looking for is a 'simple' mashed corn recipe, if he has 1000 bu of corn to use.

H.

[thefarmer355]

yes husker you are right, guess i didnt word my post correctly.

[Dnderhead]

Something to try,,
take a qt,more or less,of whole corn/maze ,, soak, in water, keep moyst so it sprouts, about 1 1/2 ins long, if you can do that with out
problums, your good to go. (exsperment with that first before doing a big batch)
if you can do that,, do up some sprouted grain, run threw mill , add about two lbs to the gallon of water, add yeast,
let it work off, (old corn licker)you can add other grain for flavor)

[Tater]

What are ya after drinkin likker or fuel? If fuel give this a read over http://www.journeytoforever.org/biofuel ... 5.html#5_1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

[thefarmer355]

thanks guys, i'm after drinkin likker for now. not really interested in the fuel aspect, i had a friend with a drag car that ran on methanol and alcohol and it reeks havok on anything rubber.

[Tater]

Then this will be a good read for ya . http://homedistiller.org/grain/wash-grain" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

[goose eye]

first thangs first - loose lips sink ships -
you usein a one barel outfit forwarned is forarmed
if you set up you want more than one barel of beer. figure 4 hours first charge 3 hours the next
ones 1 to take down an ever how long to get it gone. you get bout 5 out of a box but you gotta dip.make you a plywood box. 3 sheets cut in 1/2 put visqueen inside reinforsce outside.
think id be buyin me a sow to.


so im tole

[thefarmer355]

lol nice thinkin goose, i already have a few pigs hence why i saved all the corn in the first place.

[trthskr4]

You gonna run the whole lot of the corn? That's gonna take around 200 bushels of malt, or a crap load of commercial enzymes.





Little more than a hobby that is.

[Husker]

1000 bu will net about 5000 gallons of drinking proof (after cuts), so yes, that is a 'shit' load.

H.

[LWTCS]

I wonder how many reasons goose has for his neighbor friends needing supplies and such?
yer slick sir.

[thefarmer355]

well i definatly dont plan on making 5000 gal of shine' even if i was to sell it the market around here would make that impossible. i have around 25 pigs hence why i saved the corn from the last harvest. also, should i worry about weevils an such or just clean the corn good before mashing ?

[Dnderhead]

" should i worry about weevils an such or just clean the corn good before mashing ""
no they just add proteen

[HookLine]

5000 gallons is waaaaaaaaaaay beyond what we we are about as hobby beverage distillers.

If you are doing it for fuel then check out these guys:

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/alcoholfuel/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

[Tater]

Looks to be a farmer raisin hogs who wants to use little of the feed corn for personal use .Before hogs get it all.

[sleder]

is this really true 60# corn = 5 gallons likker
what about malt barley 48# = gallons
thanks sleder

[Husker]

Bu of shelled corn is 56 lb.

From this page: http://homedistiller.org/grain/yield/typical" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow Flaked corn is about 70% soluble (as compared to sugar). Thus, 56 lb (if converted about as good as possible, 85%) gives you the same yield as roughly 40lb sugar.

If you go to this page, you see that: http://homedistiller.org/sugar/wash-sugar/yield" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

40 lb sugar, makes 6.59 gallons at 40%. However, with cuts, you will get at best 5 gallons.


I was not 100% sure of the amount, I was going on memory on making fuel, that you could make 3-3.5 gallons (or up to 3.8, if you mashed SUPER efficiently) of fuel. Fuel is concidered 100%, so I simply doubled, removed 25% for cuts, and made a 'back of the hand' comment about 1000 bu making 5000 gallons drinking strength. So, I was 'close enough'

H.

[sleder]

so the big boys make alot of money
didnt mean to put you on the spot
thanks for the info husker
all i read is how little likker you get from all grain
but i have enough awsome sugarshine now
so all grain will be my next challenge now
with the right equipment could be cheeper than sugarshine for a farmer
going to have to be very good to beat what ive made
take care and wish ya good health sleder

[thefarmer355]

yes tater you are correct, we have all the beans cut, some chicken shit being spread on the land, so i have some free time right now to plan all this out and figure out what needs to be done. i just wanted to make 5 gallons or so and maybe put some is a wooden cask for aging. my great grandpa was pretty well known in our area back in the 40's and 50's but of course his still is long gone and so are the ones that helped him so no help there.

[Tater]

Well malting your own corn and using it by itself for malt likker or with more corn for corn likker figure on 2 - 3 gallons likker per bushel.I seem stuck on around 2 1/2 when I do it Dunder gets more .

[DBDub]

Here's a GOOD one I've used a dozen times. 30 gal ferment...
5 gal cracked corn,
5 tsp almalayse enzyme
1gal dry feed molassis.
5 tsp DAP
5 tsp epson salt
40lb sugar
9 tsp distillers yeast
yealds 18%

cook corn, simmer for about an hour. let cool to 140F, add enzymes. (usualy let sit over night)
start yeast with some sugar and DAP
mix rest up in fermenter and add yeast at 105F

works off in about 4 days and has plenty of sweet-corn flavor, you don't have to wait for 3 or 4 generations to get "good" and if you want to take it to the next level, imediately cook the corn for your next batch in your backset when youre done distilling.

[red reaper]

I'm a farmer as well, and would like to see a simple corn/sugar/yeast mash recipe for 5 or 6 gallons. I have ground field corn (yellow corn) non sprouted, just out of the bin. The recipe DBDub posted is about as close to it as I've seen. What is DAP?? and would blackstrap mollasis work instead of dried mollassis? Isn't true "Moonshine" just corn likker without the mollassis? do I have to use the mollassis? thank you.

[Dnderhead]

Diammonium Phosphate. as close as we have is UJSSM on tried and true recipes. you can do it as a sweet mash or add backset and make it sour mash.