Beer malts and barley?

[Pohammer]

Can i use beer brewing ingrediants to make a spirit wash ie Bavarian Wheat $21.10 - Made from a careful balance of wheat and barley malt, this is a crisp, refreshing, distictive beer.

Its probly a silly question but hey i dont know the answer that is why i asked

Cheers
Pohammer

[blind drunk]

Sounds good. Just curious, is the wheat malted as well?

[Pohammer]

i am unsure
yhe reason i ask is it is hard for me to find grain and corn where i am and the only corn substance i have found was feed maize and kibbled feed maize so i was looking at the containers of beer brewing mixes at the supermarket and wondered if they would be able to be put into a wash for a whiskey or bourbon wash
i am unsure but i think most of these tins contain hops aswell

Cheers
Pohammer

[blind drunk]

Oh, I thought it was a blend of grain. I wouldn't personally use them if they are already hopped. Others might. If you do use hopped beer for distillation, don't expect a whiskey you're used to drinking.

[dakotasnake]

theres nothing wrong with useing feed grade corn and other grains, its what most use. by kibbled do you mean cracked? sounds like the fixens for an ujssm.

[Pohammer]

So Maize can be used? would the flavour be ok

kibbled is coarsly ground

[Dnderhead]

maze/corn same grain,,the proper name is maze,corn meaning "small grain"
if maze/corn is "small grain" what is large?

[Pohammer]

hmm dont know
any ways i have a 25ltr fermenter how much of each ingrediant to use
for 25 ltr

maze
sugar
water
yeast

[Pohammer]

I have just read that in some other countries Maize is refered to as corn which it technically is so im now knowing when some of you guys talk about corn it can also be maize

[Dnderhead]

unless you mash the corn/maze it wont add much so you just figure the sugar.
(http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=725)

[Prairiepiss]

maze/corn same grain,,the proper name is maze,corn meaning "small grain"
if maze/corn is "small grain" what is large?

Um uh yea.

[heartcut]

I've done some really nice whiskeys from beer ingredients (without hops). If you try extract instead of mashing grain, boil it until it foams up and subsides, then cool and pitch the yeast. This will make the wash less inclined to foam up in your boiler. The spent grain from beer making makes a good sugar wash, too.

[Prairiepiss]

i am unsure
yhe reason i ask is it is hard for me to find grain and corn where i am and the only corn substance i have found was feed maize and kibbled feed maize so i was looking at the containers of beer brewing mixes at the supermarket and wondered if they would be able to be put into a wash for a whiskey or bourbon wash
i am unsure but i think most of these tins contain hops aswell

Cheers
Pohammer

That sounds like LME Liquid Malt Extract to me. It's condensed wort in a can. They extract the sugars from the malt then boil it down to concentrate it. It won't have any enzymes in it so it can't convert any starches to sugars. Like a grain malt can. Some are hopped some are not. Read the can it should say if it is or not. If it isn't it will work good to make a malt whiskey. Just add water as per directions and pitch yeast. It would be a simple starter. Then you could find some grains and try somethin else.

[Pohammer]

Thanks PP
im off to a feed store to see what they have in the way of grains im hoping they have barley and i know they have maize so will will have to wait and see

also see if they have any mollasses

Cheers Pohammer

[Prairiepiss]

Good luck. Something to think about. If they have barley it won't be malted. If you are wanting to go AG all grain then you will either need to malt it yourself. Or buy some malted barley. Or use powdered enzymes. Whole core can be malted too. You would just need more of it then malted barley. Wheat will work too. That's what I use mainly.

[Pohammer]

ok so how do i malt the grains once i get them

[Prairiepiss]

Here are a couple of threads about wheat malting. It's basically all the same. But you can do a search and find more about a specific grain.
http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 34&t=26094
http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 34&t=23538

You will also need to do some serious reading up on AG mashing. Once you figure out what grains you are going with. So you know which to research. They all have different little things that help each grain. It's better to be over prepared then needing help in the middle of doing something. And there is plenty of info here and the parent site to get you prepared.

[Prairiepiss]

Search around for Dnderheads bucket method of malting.

Instead of adding a post I will just edit this one in.

Here is a good AG to start with. NCHooch's Carolina bourbon.
http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 14&t=17750