Turbo yeast Firsts

[hitek redneck]

Honestly Guys and Gals I think we should encourage everyone that joins to try a turbo yeast just once and then try a Tried and Tested one after that. Its hard to tell someone that something can be better unless they make something both ways.
I honestly tried a couple Turbos as I have posted before and while with a lot of work you can make them drinkable they are by and large a lesser product then a "scratch recipe", but telling someone that vrs letting them taste the difference themselves its leaps and bounds different.
I am not saying push turbos like no tomorrow but I am saying is help people try stuff so they learn the difference.

[MissionCityDistiller]

I did my first run with a turbo and I gotta say it turned out beautifully!

I used still spirits classic, but I tweaked the instructions. I used 30 litres of water with about 6kg of sugar, then added the yeast (sg 1.060), a day later it was at 1.010 so I added another 2kg in 6 litres of water to bring the total volume up to about 36 litres.

The next day my sg was at 0.90 with no more bubbling, but it was still cloudy so I added 20g of sparkllod in 2 litres of boiling water and the next day it was clear as glass.

I ran it through my nixon-stone and came out with 4 litres of 80% and 5 litres of 50% (I ran it fast with very little reflux)

The spirits are awesome in my opinion, I made a dozen jars of apple pie and gave them out at work, and they were a hit!

For 20$ it was well worth it. Honestly I don't get what everyone is complaining about, turbos for the win!

[hitek redneck]

Ok now that you have done a turbo have you done a tried and true recipe? If not give one a shot and then see the difference. I really do thing everyone should try one of both to see the difference.

[rad14701]

Ok now that you have done a turbo have you done a tried and true recipe? If not give one a shot and then see the difference. I really do thing everyone should try one of both to see the difference.

+1...

Perhaps hitek redneck doesn't really know what good is and is just overly excited that he was even able to make distilled spirits, and he wouldn't be the first... Adding extra sugar and having to use a clearing agent is almost never done with mainstream recipes... I'm surprised there was no mention of carbon filtering... But I digress...

[T-Pee]

I don't need to try something just to compare. I trust those that know here when they say turbos suck.

tp

[MitchyBourbon]

I don't know if we really need to go out of our way. My impression is that most new members arrive after they have been sold turbo yeast by some huckster. Most people will probably use whatever they have already purchased no matter what we tell them. That's my 2 cents.

[woodshed]

I have found that those who think Turbos are worth using just do not know any better.
Got to try something without it to truly know the difference I agree. But turbo would not have the reputation it has if it was worth using. We would all use it if we thought it was worthy.

[T-Pee]

That's my 2 cents.

Here, Mitchy. Use mine.

tp

[corene1]

I have done the turbo and Bakers yeast comparison on sugar washes and on sugar head washes. There is a distinct flavor difference between the 2. This was almost a year and a half ago when I was first starting and listening to the guy at the brew shop too much. My memory of the 2 yeasts is that the turbos had a very unpleasant odor with a grain sugar head or a sugar wash while the bakers yeast has a very pleasant fragrance. Distillate taste also had a wide difference in tastes. Turbos seemed quite sharp and heady all the way thru the run while bakers yeast provided a much smoother distillate through the run. I didn't keep any of the turbo spirits to drink, they were just plain nasty compared to the bakers yeast spirits, even after a little time. They did make some really good cleaner though. I would use them on a rag to wipe the inside of my still head after a run. Now I do use a pot still as I am wanting to make whiskies so a reflux still might produce an completely different product. They may be good for neutrals, but not for my uses.

[MissionCityDistiller]

Honestly yeah, I was pretty proud to say that I made my own spirits and got a little over zealous with it. I'm only 19 (the legal age here) and I managed to design and build my own still, brew a mash, and distill it with decent results!

My dad and I are making a sweet feed corn whiskey this weekend so I am moving on to better quality spririts, but I won't be quick to write off turbos just for the quantity they make (important to my college friends lol)

Ps: no spirits leave my possesion that are over 100 proof.

[T-Pee]

...but I won't be quick to write off turbos just for the quantity they make (important to my college friends lol)

Dandy. Some of them just might know if it's crap or not. Keep an eye on their expressions when they taste it. Listerene's cheaper if you just want to get drunk.

tp

[woodshed]

Quantity over quality, I get it. To each his own.
I'm guessing you are not in the states. If you are you should know that referring to your self as a distiller without being able to document approval to do so will bring un wanted attention your way.
And yes, even on a site like this.

[MitchyBourbon]

That's my 2 cents.

Here, Mitchy. Use mine.

tp

haha! That's very generous, so kind of you to offer.

[MitchyBourbon]

...but I won't be quick to write off turbos just for the quantity they make (important to my college friends lol)

Dandy. Some of them just might know if it's crap or not. Keep an eye on their expressions when they taste it. Listerene's cheaper if you just want to get drunk.

tp

Bar tender, I'll have a listerene.

[T-Pee]

With mint.

Ooo! Listerene julep!

tp

[Timeking]

Well I tryed turbo yeast and now I understand what every one says about
the smell. But it made a lot and taste good I cut it with some juice
and it got better. Now I am gonna run the rest back through to see
what I get. Will the smell clear out some?

[rad14701]

Well I tryed turbo yeast and now I understand what every one says about
the smell. But it made a lot and taste good I cut it with some juice
and it got better. Now I am gonna run the rest back through to see
what I get. Will the smell clear out some?

There's no guarantee that rerunning once diluted that the smells will be removed... What type of still did you use...??? Turbo washes should be run through an efficient reflux column, not a pot still... With a pot still you may need to dilute and rerun several times...

[Timeking]

I have a small pot still. See that was something else I didn't know
The info I get from here is really great. Every time I think I got it I
find out I don't. This is not a easy sport to play but it's still a fun game

[hitek redneck]

Ok now that you have done a turbo have you done a tried and true recipe? If not give one a shot and then see the difference. I really do thing everyone should try one of both to see the difference.

+1...

Perhaps hitek redneck doesn't really know what good is and is just overly excited that he was even able to make distilled spirits, and he wouldn't be the first... Adding extra sugar and having to use a clearing agent is almost never done with mainstream recipes... I'm surprised there was no mention of carbon filtering... But I digress...

I think you really missed the whole point of my topic Rad. I know what good is. What I make is quite good and its not a turbo yeast. Re-read what I posted and what you will see I was advocating is to let people try the turbos then a tried and true to see what the differences are. You can tell people a thousand times that something is not worth making but until they try it themselves they will never truly know.

Honestly from someone who preaches reading you should really take a shot at it before commenting on what I know or don't know. I may not be a stilling genius but at least I read.

HR

[MDH]

I think when people join, a page should pop up saying "Are you using turbo?" with yes or no options, and if they say yes it'll direct them to a thread talking about why Turbos are awful and you shouldn't use them.

[bellybuster]

there are actually allot f folks using and liking turbos. My buddy just loves his hootch, turbo yeast and no cuts other than fores. To each their own I guess

[T-Pee]

I guess...

[rad14701]

I think you really missed the whole point of my topic Rad. I know what good is. What I make is quite good and its not a turbo yeast. Re-read what I posted and what you will see I was advocating is to let people try the turbos then a tried and true to see what the differences are. You can tell people a thousand times that something is not worth making but until they try it themselves they will never truly know.

Honestly from someone who preaches reading you should really take a shot at it before commenting on what I know or don't know. I may not be a stilling genius but at least I read.

HR

My reading and comprehension is just fine... The question remains as to why anyone would encourage novices to make the same mistakes they have already made rather than attempting encourage them to avoid doing so... Kinda like telling someone to play Russian roulette with a semi-automatic with just one bullet in the 10 shot clip... Flawed logic as I see it... Hey, you might just get lucky...!!! Misery loves company, perhaps...???

One of my late uncles once had to train a new worker to run a hammer press because the last operator had accidentally crushed is hand which then had to be amputated... This was before OSHA and safety features we are accustomed to today... My uncle said to the trainee "Don't do this!" and proceeded to crush his own hand which then had to be amputated... You can bet your last dollar that the trainee didn't have to make the same mistake because it had already been made - twice...!!!

Plain and simple, let's not encourage novices to make mistakes...