How to run Auber PID in manual

[muddog]

Here is how to program Auber Pid to run in auto or manual with a push of a button.
Push set button until it goes to menu mode, release button, now press and release to go thru menu.
Go to auto setting, in first pic.
Default setting is 2 , auto only, set to 0, auto or manual, using arrow
After a few seconds it will exit menu mode.
To go to manual press A-M button(2nd from left ), the A-M light will come on. To go back to auto push A-M button again.
You still need to adjust power output. Press, release set button, you will now see an A followed by a number, on the bottom display (2nd pic), this is the output value.
Adjust output values with the arrows. Output can be adjusted from 0 to100. You can easily adjust output values anytime in this mode. Muddog

[rolsen99]

Hey mud, you look versed on these units, are you able to run in manual mode without the thermocouple hooked up?

[sambedded]

PID requires thermoprobe even for manual mode. But you can trick it using 100 Ohm resistor instead of probe.

[muddog]

PID requires thermoprobe even for manual mode. But you can trick it using 100 Ohm resistor instead of probe.

That is not correct. When you run in manual , you are setting to percentage of time the PID is going to power the element, i.e manual setting of 60 will power element
60% of time and power off 40% of time , the thermocoupler is bypassed. Muddog

[sambedded]

PID requires thermoprobe even for manual mode. But you can trick it using 100 Ohm resistor instead of probe.

That is not correct. When you run in manual , you are setting to percentage of time the PID is going to power the element, i.e manual setting of 60 will power element
60% of time and power off 40% of time , the thermocoupler is bypassed. Muddog

Have you ever tried to run it in manual mode when thermosensor is disconnected?
Syl -2326 just doesn't allow you to do "setting to percentage of time" without sensor.

[muddog]

Yes , I run in manual. I leave it the tc connected. It bypasses the tc.
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[sambedded]

Now power off your panel, disconnect a thermocople and try to run PID imanual mode again.

[muddog]

PID requires thermoprobe even for manual mode. But you can trick it using 100 Ohm resistor instead of probe.

You are right . I didn't understand what you were saying.
You do have to have a TC connected or a resistor connected for the PID to function correctly. Even though it serves no purpose other than a temp indicator. It is bypassed in manual mode.

[rolsen99]

I am electrically challenged, how would I hook up the resister? Right now I have to pull out my brew kettle to run PID in manual mode with still, would be great with the resister trick! I have the "fancy" cable and connecter from auberins.

[sambedded]

Do you want to hook up resister permanently (directly to PID) or to have an ability to plug it instead of thermoprobe?

[rolsen99]

Do you want to hook up resister permanently (directly to PID) or to have an ability to plug it instead of thermoprobe?

I just want the ability to plug it.

[muddog]

I did some searches and couldn't come up with anything on bypassing TC with a resistor.
If some body knows how to do this, I would appreciate a post on it.
In the meantime, if your TC plugs into your control box, ( see pic) you can buy a cheapie TC from fleabay and use it instead of your boil pot TC. Muddog

[sambedded]

Typical PT-100 thermoprobe looks like:

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Just use a 100-150 Ohms resistor instead of Pt-100 element.

[muddog]

I am electrically challenged, how would I hook up the resister? Right now I have to pull out my brew kettle to run PID in manual mode with still, would be great with the resister trick! I have the "fancy" cable and connecter from auberins.

Typical PT-100 thermoprobe looks like:

Pt100.jpg

Just use a 100-150 Ohms resistor instead of Pt-100 element.

So there you have it . Thank you sambedded.
Auber Pid also accepts K type coupler ,which uses 2 wires , can you use K Type setting and put resistor between those 2 wires instead?
It would be simpler that way. Muddog

[rolsen99]

OK, I think I understand, thanks for the help.

[muddog]

According to Auber you can do this, instead of using TC or resistor.
From Auber:
Please set the SYL-2352 PID's SN = 0 and use a copper wire to short cut the terminal 4&5 (where it should be connected to the thermocouple). Then the controller will display ambient temperature.
Muddog