10,000w SCR vs SSR

pointhunter75 · Post by **pointhunter75** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:07 pm

Oh yeah i remember you saying that now. Lol that sucks. Have you tried the controller out on your pot yet?

ddizzle22 · Post by **ddizzle22** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:27 pm

When I get some spare time I will open mine back up but it looks like you guys are making out alright. It gets tight in the box. I wish my main fan stayed running even after hitting the on/off switch. When open it back up might look back into that. Also could use better groumets for the wires going into the box.

ddizzle22 · Post by **ddizzle22** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:30 pm

Snackson wrote:https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B002MPPT ... th=1&psc=1

I used this one I guess that one you listed is similar.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002MPQ51O/re ... eMFIjUEnKW" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

pointhunter75 · Post by **pointhunter75** » Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:05 pm

Thanks ddizzle.

What size fan are y'all using? How many cfm is enough? Thickness shouldn't really matter should it?

Post by **TxBrewing** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:05 am

Mine was super tight as I mounted everything to the lid.

Yesterday was a crappy day so I did t get anything done. Have not used yet still have to add the main power.

Today. Will do it today and hope to do my cleaning runs this weekend

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pointhunter75 · Post by **pointhunter75** » Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:36 pm

Look good? No incoming or outgoing cable yet. This is the leviton 30amp switch from home depot. I'll add the120 fan when gets here.

Post by **TxBrewing** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:07 am

I got the mains made but didn't have time to get lock nuts for the cable glands. Try to get them tonight

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ddizzle22 · Post by **ddizzle22** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 5:28 am

[quote="pointhunter75"]Thanks ddizzle.

What size fan are y'all using? How many cfm is enough? Thickness shouldn't

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019W9WU0W/re ... ZQUziFm3sw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

That is the fan I used. It's 240v hooked right up in. Fits our box perfect.

pointhunter75 · Post by **pointhunter75** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:22 am

ddizzle22 wrote:
pointhunter75 wrote:Thanks ddizzle.

What size fan are y'all using? How many cfm is enough? Thickness shouldn't

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019W9WU0W/re ... ZQUziFm3sw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

That is the fan I used. It's 240v hooked right up in. Fits our box perfect.

No longer available...imagine that! Had like 7 yesterday I was looking.

Post by **still_stirrin** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:27 am

pointhunter75 wrote:
ddizzle22 wrote:
pointhunter75 wrote:What size fan are y'all using?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019W9WU0W/re ... ZQUziFm3sw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

That is the fan I used.
No longer available...imagine that! Had like 7 yesterday I was looking.

This one is: https://www.amazon.com/Uxcell-Plastic-V ... 3F82MRF3KW" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

pointhunter75 · Post by **pointhunter75** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:31 am

still_stirrin wrote:
pointhunter75 wrote:
ddizzle22 wrote:
pointhunter75 wrote:What size fan are y'all using?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B019W9WU0W/re ... ZQUziFm3sw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

That is the fan I used.
No longer available...imagine that! Had like 7 yesterday I was looking.
This one is: https://www.amazon.com/Uxcell-Plastic-V ... 3F82MRF3KW" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Stirrin, that one says once available and usually ships in 1to2months

Post by **TxBrewing** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:35 am

Mine is 92x92

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Post by **still_stirrin** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 6:41 am

pointhunter75 wrote:Stirrin, that one says once available and usually ships in 1to2months

What about ordering from Walmart then? https://www.walmart.com/ip/220VAC-0-07A ... =sem#about" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

pointhunter75 · Post by **pointhunter75** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:40 am

still_stirrin wrote:
pointhunter75 wrote:Stirrin, that one says once available and usually ships in 1to2months
What about ordering from Walmart then? https://www.walmart.com/ip/220VAC-0-07A ... =sem#about" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Was about to order but it said arrival feb 15 lol I'll Look around some more later today. So far all on eBay ship from Hong Kong.

Post by **TxBrewing** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:07 am

I am having trouble getting Amazon to open here at work, but I got mine for about $12 shipped with Prime.
Took 2 days to get here

I will link it when I get home

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019W ... UTF8&psc=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

TXB

pointhunter75 · Post by **pointhunter75** » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:06 pm

TxBrewing wrote:I am having trouble getting Amazon to open here at work, but I got mine for about $12 shipped with Prime.
Took 2 days to get here

I will link it when I get home

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019W ... UTF8&psc=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

TXB

That one says in stock Feb 2 lol seems they're All sold out

pointhunter75 · Post by **pointhunter75** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:13 am

All I can find in stock on Amazon are the 120v fans. I think im just gonna get one of those. No reason not to right?

Post by **TxBrewing** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:33 am

Can you wire it up at 110?

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pointhunter75 · Post by **pointhunter75** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:25 am

TxBrewing wrote:Can you wire it up at 110?

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Yeah I reckon you just use the neutral and hot wire

Post by **rad14701** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:00 am

pointhunter75 wrote:
TxBrewing wrote:Can you wire it up at 110?

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Yeah I reckon you just use the neutral and hot wire

Yes, as long as your wiring is four wire so it has a true insulated Neutral and not just a bare Ground... The 240V circuit I use is only 10-3, not 10-4, so it doesn't have Neutral which requires me to run another cord to a standard 120V outlet to power my fan...

pointhunter75 · Post by **pointhunter75** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 9:15 am

rad14701 wrote:
pointhunter75 wrote:
TxBrewing wrote:Can you wire it up at 110?

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Yeah I reckon you just use the neutral and hot wire
Yes, as long as your wiring is four wire so it has a true insulated Neutral and not just a bare Ground... The 240V circuit I use is only 10-3, not 10-4, so it doesn't have Neutral which requires me to run another cord to a standard 120V outlet to power my fan...

I'm using 10-4

Post by **TxBrewing** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:11 pm

So, I got it all wired up and when i flipped the switch, nothin happened...

So, that got me to troubleshooting, I used 10/3 to wire the box, and the grounds all tie into each other
The ground from the wall, the ground to the SCR, and the ground to the element.

This means that unless the element is installed into the keg and plugged into the controller there is no ground..correct???
So this is why it the fan will not turn on when I flip the switch.

Is this going to be an issue???

TXB

Post by **rad14701** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:36 pm

TxBrewing wrote:So, I got it all wired up and when i flipped the switch, nothin happened...

So, that got me to troubleshooting, I used 10/3 to wire the box, and the grounds all tie into each other
The ground from the wall, the ground to the SCR, and the ground to the element.

This means that unless the element is installed into the keg and plugged into the controller there is no ground..correct???
So this is why it the fan will not turn on when I flip the switch.

Is this going to be an issue???

TXB

Everything should be properly grounded all the time and not dependent on having the element plugged into the controller... Anytime there is electricity available there should be a working ground... Also, your fan should not rely on ground, it should be connected to either one of the hots and neutral... Very few fans have an actual ground...

pointhunter75 · Post by **pointhunter75** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:37 pm

I know earlier in the thread, they said it must have a load on it. Not sure if they meant for the meter to work or the scr.

Post by **rad14701** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:39 pm

pointhunter75 wrote:I know earlier in the thread, they said it must have a load on it. Not sure if meant the meter or the scr.

SCR's require a load in order for the circuit to be activated... Virtually all solid state relays only control one of the mains... Even if the other is wired through the unit it is simply a pass-through... So if a load isn't connected, the circuit is not complete... Therefore the ammeter probably wouldn't work either but a voltage meter would as most (at least digitals) need to be wired into the mains before the controller... I take analog voltage readings at the element...

pointhunter75 · Post by **pointhunter75** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 1:45 pm

Thanks for that info rad

Post by **TxBrewing** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:07 pm

rad14701 wrote:
TxBrewing wrote:So, I got it all wired up and when i flipped the switch, nothin happened...

So, that got me to troubleshooting, I used 10/3 to wire the box, and the grounds all tie into each other
The ground from the wall, the ground to the SCR, and the ground to the element.

This means that unless the element is installed into the keg and plugged into the controller there is no ground..correct???
So this is why it the fan will not turn on when I flip the switch.

Is this going to be an issue???

TXB
Everything should be properly grounded all the time and not dependent on having the element plugged into the controller... Anytime there is electricity available there should be a working ground... Also, your fan should not rely on ground, it should be connected to either one of the hots and neutral... Very few fans have an actual ground...

The fan is 220 so it is wired straight to the switch.

I need to look
But I might have thought of the problem

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Post by **TxBrewing** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:25 pm

Yep

Forgot to tie the ground to the switch itself

Fan works now so that circuit is good
Filling the keg now to see if the element will fire

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Post by **TxBrewing** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:52 pm

She is good to go
Cleaning runs this weekend
And prep a sugarhead for sac run

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pointhunter75 · Post by **pointhunter75** » Fri Jan 27, 2017 3:38 pm

[quote="TxBrewing"]She is good to go
Cleaning runs this weekend
And prep a sugarhead for sac run

Wish I was at that point !!! Are you wiring directly to keg? I want to put a plug on my keg but haven't figured Out exactly how i want to do it.

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