2" perforated plate experiments

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Re: 2" perforated plate experiments

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rad14701 wrote:With roughly 1.1 liters of 95% in the boiler at the start I don't think you're way off on your results... Remember there will be quite a bit of total combined liquid on top of those plates which will dilute towards the end of your run... All in all it doesn't sound terrible for a first run... Stick with it and keep us posted... :thumbup:
The calculator on the parent site says a 40L(10gal) wash at 11% should yield 4.7 gal at 89%.... I can live with not getting every drop out of my wash, however I'm disappointed that he delph didn't hold the ABV constant like it did before in all of my other runs. This is the part that I"m so disappointed in... hopefully I'll find the sweet spot next run. I have a 1st generation of UJSSM I can run through her, If I get the same results It will sill have enough flavor to run again with the 2nd generation and be cleaner for it. :roll:

Usge wrote:GM, your results are almost identical to my runs on my 2 incher with 4 plates (1" bubble cap on each plate). I think you should try a run with low-wines (more alc) as Rad suggested. I finally got my new reworked deplegm head done. I'll be posting up pics/specs of it in my old dephlegmator thread. As soon as I can get it cleaned out good...and finish leak testing it...I''m going to resume my experiments as well.
I can't wait to see the pics, PM me when you get her up!
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guittarmaster wrote:The calculator on the parent site says a 40L(10gal) wash at 11% should yield 4.7 gal at 89%.... I can live with not getting every drop out of my wash, however I'm disappointed that he delph didn't hold the ABV constant like it did before in all of my other runs. This is the part that I"m so disappointed in... hopefully I'll find the sweet spot next run. I have a 1st generation of UJSSM I can run through her, If I get the same results It will sill have enough flavor to run again with the 2nd generation and be cleaner for it. :roll:
Shouldn't that be 4.7 liters...???
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i know mine if different but a side by side by side comparison from the 3 of us, soon to be 4 with seaguy's build, that are running with 2" plates would be EXTREMELY useful. The problem here is that tastes are subjective and take lots of practice so . . . oh well. I love to see the experimentation.
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rad14701 wrote:
guittarmaster wrote:The calculator on the parent site says a 40L(10gal) wash at 11% should yield 4.7 gal at 89%.... I can live with not getting every drop out of my wash, however I'm disappointed that he delph didn't hold the ABV constant like it did before in all of my other runs. This is the part that I"m so disappointed in... hopefully I'll find the sweet spot next run. I have a 1st generation of UJSSM I can run through her, If I get the same results It will sill have enough flavor to run again with the 2nd generation and be cleaner for it. :roll:
Shouldn't that be 4.7 liters...???

Yeah, my bad dude, You ment what i knew.... (i was on just two hours of sleep that day :tired: )
banter_king wrote:i know mine if different but a side by side by side comparison from the 3 of us, soon to be 4 with seaguy's build, that are running with 2" plates would be EXTREMELY useful. The problem here is that tastes are subjective and take lots of practice so . . . oh well. I love to see the experimentation.
Yeah, we'll probably have to run a 10gal batch of a standard mash for comparison. So far I have my old perforated plates, the scrubbies, and these bubble caps plates in test... Two more weeks and I should be able to work more on this... I can't wait!!!
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Re: 2" perforated plate [cap run_2] experiments

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2nd Cap run....
1st gen UJSSM. (yeah, it's not the one I had been running earlier, but this was more of a trial base line). I wanted to see how the still would preform keeping the delph settings constant. For this run I adjusted the delph and hit the sweet spots right away, so just left it run until she was finished.

This specific batch had been fermented dry by Dec 2, but I had been to busy with finals and graduation to run it so it had been sitting finished for month. I have ran UJSSN before, once on my twins, once on my a pot still, but on this time I got a flavor that I haven't experienced before, like a band-aid or peaty-ness falvor in scorch, What does that mean? :eh:

ABV vs time
take off rate about 5th/h

8:00 I loaded up the still with 7-8 gallons of UJSSM first generation.
8:41 Started full reflux
9:15 90% started to remove fore-shots drop-wise. With the new liebig configuration the take off rate slowly ramped itself up and about the time the Juicy-Fruit gum flavor was coming out the take off was a little too fast, readjusted to previous full reflux setting and take off rate was perfect. (the water going into the delph goes through the liebig and is pre-warmed. The end result for me is more efficient use of water but that's for another post)
9:37 90% 1c foreshots collected, switched to heads collection, turned down delph as described above to just barely a continuous stream.
9:53 89% early Hearts. Clean tasting switched to Collection jar. (750mL vol)
9:59 88% slight Band-aid flavor comming through, otherwise clean tasting
10:02 87% scotchy Band-aid flavor more pronounced, but not overwhelming, definitly not typical tails wet cardboard taste. Take off quick broken stream
10:07 86% take off starting to slow down moderate broken stream
10:21. 86% band-aid flavor gone completly. distillate clean again. takeoff rate further reduced, fast dropwise. switched to collection jar 3 (750mL vol)
10:42 86.5% ABV increase ? wtf? take of very slow drips(~2drips/3sec), like removing fore-shots speed. Started to get first sign of tails.
10:46 86.75 % further increase, take of 1drop/sec. still just hint of tails.
11:00 complete reflux reinstated
11:10 88% collection resumed. Clean tasting, Take off 2-3 drops per second.
11:20 Bored. Turned delph off

After turning the delph off the ABV dropped to 29% in 10 minutes and a little over half of a fifth of the nastiest smellyiest tails came streaming out :sick: :crazy: .

total: about 3L collected (including fore-shots, heads and tails). about 1500ml (two fifths) will probably be drinkable! (if that scotchy band-aid smell doesn't ruin it. I suspect it's from fermenting on the grain for so long.)
In short, great compression, but I hoped that the ABV would of been more steady though, but still a good configuration. I'll have to try this with something more flavorful like a 5th gen UJSSM or a rum. I suspect that these caps might be better for people trying to achieve a more flavorful product, but I still need to run it a few more times to make a real judgement call on that.

GM

update: after airing for two nights that band-aid flavor has changed to more of a dusty grain flavor.
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