Birdwatchers sugar wash recipe

[maheel]

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i would ignore the 220v diagram, i assume it would just wire up the same for 120v in Canada ?

i use one on my fridge and love it

As for that mini thermostat that maheel found on eBay that Bushman mentioned. I live in Canada and power is all 110~120 VAC. It mentions on eBay Canada that they will work on 120 VAC but the diagrams there just show 220 VAC for the heater plugs and also eBay Aurstralia never mentions that 120 VAC is possible. Help?

[Bushman]

As for that mini thermostat that maheel found on eBay that Bushman mentioned. I live in Canada and power is all 110~120 VAC. It mentions on eBay Canada that they will work on 120 VAC but the diagrams there just show 220 VAC for the heater plugs and also eBay Aurstralia never mentions that 120 VAC is possible. Help?

I live in the US and it works great on a 110~120, The wiring is a bit off with the one they sent but when I re-emailed his ebay account he sent me the wiring diagram that works great. If you go with it and you have any problems pm me and I can show you how to wire it, (actually it is pretty easy).

[UlTrA_]

hey guys
sorry if im intterupting anyones conversation
I am wondering if my SG was 1.110 and it seems my fermentation has finishied at 1.10 would that be right or do you think i will need to restart it?
Thanks for any advice guys

[Dnderhead]

at 1.10 its just started

[UlTrA_]

no sorry i was using a beer and wine hydrometer the SG was 1.110(or 12) and the reading now is 1.008 with tempature corrections.
Should i give it a bit of a swirl/shake to see if anything else happens one weird thing is all the liquid in the airlock is on the opposite side
Cheers mate

[Braz]

Yeh, give it a little swirl, but don't beat it into a froth. Then let it sit for another day or two.

[UlTrA_]

k mate will do
The level in the airlock is equal on both sides now.
cheers

[Dnderhead]

1.008 is something like 1.5% alcohol .leave it to clear. run it even if it does not go lower.

[rad14701]

With an OG of 1.110 and a FG of 1.008 you have ~13.2% ABV... But considering how Birdwatchers usually finishes below 1.000 your yeast colony may have become stressed and stalled or died... It'll probably run fine either way, if it's done, without much if any foaming... If it's done, run it...

[UlTrA_]

thanks for the info guys
it seems to be alive again. i did use a little malt extract so hope it doesnt cause to much foaming
Do i add broken porcelain plates or something along those lines
Thanks guys i hope everyone has a great weekend
Thanks

[eyeless]

Something about tomato paste always turned me off from this recipe.........been in this game for 4-5 years using WPOSW and had decent results.............however finally tried this recipe for sh*ts and giggles and MAN....totally amazed.......8kg of sugar in 65 liters of water and is now dry in less than 3 days......WPOSW took me 2 weeks...........haven't distilled yet, but up to this point I am just blown away, amazing recipe, looked like wash was boiling it was fermenting so hard!!

[Bushman]

Something about tomato paste always turned me off from this recipe.........been in this game for 4-5 years using WPOSW and had decent results.............however finally tried this recipe for sh*ts and giggles and MAN....totally amazed.......8kg of sugar in 65 liters of water and is now dry in less than 3 days......WPOSW took me 2 weeks...........haven't distilled yet, but up to this point I am just blown away, amazing recipe, looked like wash was boiling it was fermenting so hard!!

If you are measuring 8kg of sugar and 65 liters of water you have an approx. yield of 6.7% ABV.

[eyeless]

I know my ABV is on the low side, but always figured it would result in a cleaner product..........with WPOSW stalling out on me I never did want to go higher...........with this next ferment I think I will step it up a little........I am thinking I would be fine in the 12kg range, going to set a batch tonight, might just go for it and do a 12kg batch should put me in the 1.075 or 10% range correct?

[Bushman]

I know my ABV is on the low side, but always figured it would result in a cleaner product..........with WPOSW stalling out on me I never did want to go higher...........with this next ferment I think I will step it up a little........I am thinking I would be fine in the 12kg range, going to set a batch tonight, might just go for it and do a 12kg batch should put me in the 1.075 or 10% range correct?

If you want to get a fairly close estimate on the parent site under washes, there is a calculator for figuring out how much water to sugar you need to reach a certain percent ABV. I usually shoot for the 12% range!

[rad14701]

I always try to get recipes to perform well up to 14% and have done so with this one with only minor tweaking... In fact, I've gone even higher by accident and it still fermented cleanly to dry and produced clean neutral spirits... I have two separate ~14% batches going right now with tweaks in an effort to get a clean 7 day or less ferment... One batch was started on the 28th and the other on the 30th so we'll see what the beginning of the week brings...

[admin4]

I've got 10.5 gallons of this recipe going (scaled down exactly), split evenly in two tubs, my first try at this iconic ferment. Using the Crosby distillers yeast, started at 97* with an SG of 1.08 and an ambient temp of 72*. Seven days in now, still perking slowly, both down to 1.03 measured in the tubs. Surface temp of both hovering at 74*. Only very slight surface foam now after an energetic first two days. Light stir daily. Color is pink with a nice, sweet smell. Exercising painfull patience despite slow pace compared to the evil turbos. If successful, will try my new Brewhaus EEII for the first time. BW, is the pace OK, and is there any problem testing SG in the tub rather than in an external tube?

[Bushman]

I've got 10.5 gallons of this recipe going (scaled down exactly), split evenly in two tubs, my first try at this iconic ferment. Using the Crosby distillers yeast, started at 97* with an SG of 1.08 and an ambient temp of 72*. Seven days in now, still perking slowly, both down to 1.03 measured in the tubs. Surface temp of both hovering at 74*. Only very slight surface foam now after an energetic first two days. Light stir daily. Color is pink with a nice, sweet smell. Exercising painfull patience despite slow pace compared to the evil turbos. If successful, will try my new Brewhaus EEII for the first time. BW, is the pace OK, and is there any problem testing SG in the tub rather than in an external tube?

Leave it alone and let it finish on it's own you do not need to keep stirring it.

[admin4]

Thanks for the quick response. Sounds good to me. Any opinion re; SG testing in the tub vs in a test cylinder? There's at least one thread herein that says tub testing is a no no, but doesn't say why.

[Dnderhead]

testing with a hydrometer,is affected with whatever is in wash,any trub/co2/other can alter the reading.
you can take a reading while fermenting this will give you a idea if its working or not.but it wont be accurate..
true readings can only be taken on clear wash.

[maheel]

Thanks for the quick response. Sounds good to me. Any opinion re; SG testing in the tub vs in a test cylinder? There's at least one thread herein that says tub testing is a no no, but doesn't say why.

yeah you can, in beer making it's a BIG NO NO as you can induce infection pretty easy

just give your hydro a nice wash

but in BW if you lift the lid a few hours later it should be growing a big crop of yeast foam on top and you know it's working and no need to test with hydro really
by about day 4 mine settle down just to a fizzing away while working
by day 7 -10 i just float the hydro in the tub to see if it needs anything like some heat to get it to 990

after say 5 days if it's visibly working there will be enough ALC and CO2 to pretty much keep itself from getting infected to test "near risk free"

then maybe before i run it, often a few weeks later to let it clear i chuck the hydro in to check it's at 990

[seaguy]

I too have a BW going on 7days today. This is my first "keeper run". I followed the original recipe using a little less water and then adding more to get 1.08 on each bucket. I have maintained their temp at 95F . Thought they would be cleared by now but there is still activity , it's milky looking and smells good. Does this sound typical to the experienced? Hearing Eyeless is clear in 3 days makes me wonder if something is off.

[Bushman]

I too have a BW going on 7days today. This is my first "keeper run". I followed the original recipe using a little less water and then adding more to get 1.08 on each bucket. I have maintained their temp at 95F . Thought they would be cleared by now but there is still activity , it's milky looking and smells good. Does this sound typical to the experienced? Hearing Eyeless is clear in 3 days makes me wonder if something is off.

Sounds like everything is running ok, my birdwatchers usually goes 2 weeks and sometimes 3. Your temp is a bit higher than I run it 28C or 82F.

[britincali]

Ive done at least 8 runs of this wash now and it never fails, sometimes takes three week but always ferments out and clears nicely. 3 sparkletts bottles gets me about 7 keeper quart jars of 93% from my bokabob setup.


Definalty one of the best washes

[maheel]

Eyeless is clear in 3 days makes me wonder if something is off.

whats Eyeless ?

3 days ? not even "super dooper turbo extra super" would be clear in 3 days properly

[seaguy]

Something about tomato paste always turned me off from this recipe.........been in this game for 4-5 years using WPOSW and had decent results.............however finally tried this recipe for sh*ts and giggles and MAN....totally amazed.......8kg of sugar in 65 liters of water and is now dry in less than 3 days......WPOSW took me 2 weeks...........haven't distilled yet, but up to this point I am just blown away, amazing recipe, looked like wash was boiling it was fermenting so hard!!

Maheel Eyeless is a forum member. This is the post I was reffering too. I wrote clear he wrote dry ...thought both meant the same thing.

[kenfyoozed]

I've tried this for the first time. I striped 30 gallons last week and got 5 gal at 50%. Might could have gotten more but container was full and I was tired. This came over clean enough for he on the strip. Can't wait to do a slow spirit run and see what I get. Thanks guys.

[Skozzy]

Hi, very new to all this, have got a smart still at the moment. Had a go with the recipe, 21l water, 5k sugar, half teaspoon Epsom salts, 2 lemons, 250g toms paste, and 75g bakers yeast. Had a start reading of 1.080 , on 20/11/11. It's been now 4 weeks, reading now shows 1.010. Help would be great, do I still leave it longer, or rack into another bucket and leave longer, was hoping that I could of completed it before Christmas.
Thanks
Steve

[Bushman]

Hi, very new to all this, have got a smart still at the moment. Had a go with the recipe, 21l water, 5k sugar, half teaspoon Epsom salts, 2 lemons, 250g toms paste, and 75g bakers yeast. Had a start reading of 1.080 , on 20/11/11. It's been now 4 weeks, reading now shows 1.010. Help would be great, do I still leave it longer, or rack into another bucket and leave longer, was hoping that I could of completed it before Christmas.
Thanks
Steve

Look at it, does it still look active? When mine is done it clears on top, 4 weeks she is probably about done I would put it in a cool place for a day and let things settle then rack.

[Skozzy]

Thanks for your reply, looks like still some bubbles coming to the top, not looking very clear also.
Thanks

[maheel]

Hi, very new to all this, have got a smart still at the moment. Had a go with the recipe, 21l water, 5k sugar, half teaspoon Epsom salts, 2 lemons, 250g toms paste, and 75g bakers yeast. Had a start reading of 1.080 , on 20/11/11. It's been now 4 weeks, reading now shows 1.010. Help would be great, do I still leave it longer, or rack into another bucket and leave longer, was hoping that I could of completed it before Christmas.
Thanks
Steve

does it still taste sweet ?
whats the water temp ?

also whats your hydro read in 20"c tap water ?