looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Other discussions for folks new to the wonderful craft of home distilling.

Moderator: Site Moderator

Post Reply
rager
Distiller
Posts: 1584
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:52 pm

looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by rager » Tue Jul 01, 2014 6:36 pm

so Ive the threads about the original SS gas line outline from DAD my only concern is getting the yellow jacket off the line. id rather buy something that's SS and I don't have to worry about removing the protective coating.

so here is what ive found. the reason im looking to go 3/8 is because I tried the 1/2" from home depot and wasn't working out well fitting in the 2 inch pipe . but I only really tried for a minute.

im thinking the 3/8 will wind tighter with more service area and fit a little better. plus this one says it has 1/4in id. from my reading I believe others I using 1/4 cooling lines without a problem.

oh btw this is a 48" packed boka

so any input on any of these ss lines?
http://www.mcmaster.com/#gasoline-hose-line/=snlfo8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

http://www.mcmaster.com/#5830kac/=snlk86" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
would you use it?
or
http://www.amazon.com/HomeFlex-Heater-C ... 06&sr=1-21" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
ships in 1-3 months ? wtf?

or if anyone has any other links to some ss lines please send them why way :-) thanks

rager



http://www.amazon.com/HomeFlex-Heater-C ... uctDetails" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

User avatar
Windy City
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 664
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:52 pm
Location: Chicagoland

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by Windy City » Tue Jul 01, 2014 7:27 pm

Hey Rager
Your looking in the wrong direction. You don't want stainless braided line what your looking for is corrugated stainless steel tubing (CSST)
This is the Home Depot version
http://reviews.homedepot.com/1999/20307 ... eviews.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
There is also the professional versions such as Wardflex, or GasTite.
The plastic coating (or jacket) is easily removed, as that is part of the proper installation of fittings.
I have worked with Wardflex and GasTite quite a lot and you should be able to wrap the 1/2" nicely into a 2" line.

Hope this helps
Windy City
The liver is evil and must be punished

White_Lightning_Rod
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 437
Joined: Mon Dec 23, 2013 3:22 pm
Location: The Valley of Many Deer

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by White_Lightning_Rod » Tue Jul 01, 2014 9:44 pm

I've been looking for the same 3/8 as well. So far all that I have found locally that is smaller than 1/2" and in shorter 4ft to 8ft lengths and even a lot of the 1/2" in shorter lengths has a coating that is either painted on or powder coated on. Making it very difficult to remove. I did find 3/8 on the gas tite website in 50 and 75ft rolls when I get disposable funds Im thinking I will order a roll since the bulk lengths have to have a removable coating to allow fittings to be added. Keep us posted if you find a good supplier for the shorter lengths.
HD forum, the best damn group of criminals and outlaws you'll ever meet.

Hound Dog
Master Distiller
Posts: 3002
Joined: Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:45 pm
Location: Hounds Hollow, VA

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by Hound Dog » Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:06 am

If you want short lengths try the gas appliance connectors at plumbingsupply.com I think they have bare lines with fittings attached to the ends up to 6 feet long of various diameters.

I personally went for a 25 ft roll of Gastite from Home Depot. It's not much more than a connector with shipping and it is very thin walled allowing for good heat transfer. The yellow stuff is just a loose plastic sleeve that pulls off.

As for 1/2" not fitting well in 2" pipe, you don't have to make a coil. Just double it over and twist it. Stretch out a scrubbie or use a little mesh to wrap around it and it will work fine. You will be surprised how little it takes to knock down the vapors. No one will see it hidden inside your column and think any less of you for not having a fancy coil.
LM Still Operating Instructions
Cranky's New Distiller's Advice
Using Google Search

Drinking Rum before noon makes you a Pirate not an alcoholic.

User avatar
DAD300
Master Distiller
Posts: 2772
Joined: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:46 am
Location: Southern U.S.

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by DAD300 » Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:36 am

Originally ebay was my friend for this stuff.
Here's the best I found today http://www.ebay.com/itm/DORMONT-20-3132 ... 48688d9f57" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

1/2" o.d. x 48" should be easily wound to fit in a 2" column. As HD said, the coils don't have to be perfectly perpendicular to the column.

For 3/8" o.d. there is solar heater CSST but it starts at $5usd a foot.
CCVM http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... d#p7104768" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Ethyl Carbamate Docs viewtopic.php?f=6&t=55219&p=7309262&hil ... e#p7309262
DSP-AR-20005

Bob Loblaw
Swill Maker
Posts: 478
Joined: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:13 am
Location: Pacific Northwest

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by Bob Loblaw » Wed Jul 02, 2014 12:38 pm

they have this stuff in every size and length at Amazon. My experience was that the 1/2" was a super tight squeeze if you wanted to coil it up in a 2" column. the best you can do is a loose twist. The 3/8" you can make a nice little coil out of it.

Looks like the price has gone up, but this will give you a model number/brand
http://www.amazon.com/Watts-Dormont-10- ... B0046ECKR2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Edit: 36" is only $20. It's probably long enough
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000I1 ... e=UTF8&me=" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Easiest way to avoid being on a TTB list is to not purchase a boiler, full column, or condensor from a retailer. Build your own.

rager
Distiller
Posts: 1584
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:52 pm

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by rager » Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:37 pm

thanks bob, I haven't come across those products yet on amazon . bout to read up. this is what I was looking for. I didn't like the idea of having to burn off the yellow plastic coating on the gas lines from home depot.

ragin rager

Bob Loblaw
Swill Maker
Posts: 478
Joined: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:13 am
Location: Pacific Northwest

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by Bob Loblaw » Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:42 pm

glad to help. I forgot about another good source - Zorotools. Even better deals

http://www.zoro.com/g/Stainless%20Steel ... 54174/None" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
Easiest way to avoid being on a TTB list is to not purchase a boiler, full column, or condensor from a retailer. Build your own.

User avatar
BigSwede
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 674
Joined: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:36 am

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by BigSwede » Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:33 am

I've made several orders from Zoro in the last few months... good company for those in the USA.

Here's a helpful hint with Zoro. They are constantly running specials, at any given time there are a half dozen codes that will net some significant savings. Here's where they can be found:

http://www.retailmenot.com/view/zoro.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Free shipping is almost always there with over $50, and is automatic. What I do is have a running "wish list" of all the dozens of fiddly things needed to get a still running, and once it's large enough, it lets you crack into the super-discount level, like the 30% off I got last month when my order totalled over $300. That's ninety bucks! I bought non-still things too like the center-pull paper towels I use in my shop, machine tool stuff, some electrical stuff, etc.

rager
Distiller
Posts: 1584
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:52 pm

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by rager » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:54 pm

thanks guys for those great links. cheaper than amazon. im going with the 3/8 id. I guess at this point im most interested in what I should order as far as length . id rather have more than I need. and a couple extra bucks spent wont break me. so 48" or 60 . oh btw its a 2 inch by 48 inch boka.

rager

panikry83
Swill Maker
Posts: 290
Joined: Sat May 02, 2015 5:00 pm
Location: PA

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by panikry83 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 9:37 am

How are you guys getting the coating off? Im trying to scratch an area with my pocket knife to peel it off but it seems like its painted on. Any suggestions?

User avatar
Soft batch
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 182
Joined: Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:42 pm
Location: NE Ohio

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by Soft batch » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:09 am

There are two types of yellow gas lines - appliance connectors which are painted (come with ends on), and CSST which has a vinyl sleeve over it.

panikry83
Swill Maker
Posts: 290
Joined: Sat May 02, 2015 5:00 pm
Location: PA

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by panikry83 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:10 am

Hmm I may have bought the wrong one

User avatar
Bushman
Global moderator
Posts: 14919
Joined: Tue Mar 30, 2010 5:29 am
Location: Pacific Northwest

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by Bushman » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:17 am

panikry83 wrote:Hmm I may have bought the wrong one
Yep, I have spent extra money by not doing the research and saved money when I do a little research before building.

User avatar
cranky
Site Donor
Site Donor
Posts: 5711
Joined: Fri Sep 27, 2013 3:18 pm
Location: Pacific Northwest

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by cranky » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:34 am

I tried to get the paint/powder coat off one of those yellow ones once, I found it next to impossible. Fortunately for me I found a bunch of uncoated 3/8 and 1/2" ones on closeout at Home Depot super cheap.

rad14701
Master Distiller
Posts: 20866
Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:46 pm
Location: New York, USA

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by rad14701 » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:22 pm

panikry83 wrote:Hmm I may have bought the wrong one
In a pinch it will burn off... Just don't apply more heat than needed... Then a good cleansing and mild acid bath and you're good to go... Or take it back and get the right stuff...

kimbodious
Trainee
Posts: 820
Joined: Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:57 pm

Re: looking to buy a SS gas line, DAD300 style

Post by kimbodious » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:54 pm

A half inch two scrubbie twirl, degree of difficulty, 0.2, for a two inch column condenser controlled reflux condenser, :lol: I got a relative to buy the 72" heater connector tubing from Home Depot and send it to me here in Australia.
image.jpeg
--
50L Beer keg boiler, 2200W element
Modular 2" Pot Still
Modular 2" CCVM

Post Reply