Shinners Flute build.

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Lookin good KS... :D
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olddog wrote:Unless you are bustin to cut off the excess inside the column, I would leave them as they are, it will make a stronger joint, also if you can fill one end of the plate support tube with solder, it will give you a blind thermometer probe port which you will need to control the dephlagmater.


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You just saved me some work OD. I will fill one end of the suppor tube tonight.. Thanks for watching my progress through this build and offering suggestions along the way.
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olddog wrote:
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ScottishBoy wrote:Aw man!...now my keyboard is all sticky... :mrgreen:
Tell me that's from spit-up and not some other impure action pertaining to wood... :twisted:
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WTG Kentuc.

Thank I seen a smudge upon that thing OD. :lol:
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LWTCS wrote:Thank I seen a smudge upon that thing OD
Sorry about that, I will attend to it straight away. :roll: :roll:


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KY,, if its not too much to ask :ebiggrin: :D when you do your next round of sight glasses,could you do a somewhat detailed description (with pictures) on how you are doing them? i always found it hard to read a book without pictures. LOL
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Looking good KS. You making some good progress
Mr.Spooky wrote: . . . on second thought, if that dremel got out of your hand, that would be like sticking your arm in a coon filled tote sack.
ouch!
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I will do that later tonight spooky, Im getting ready to head out to the shop in just little bit... That is if I can stop reading stuff on here... :lol:
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Kentucky shinner wrote:I will do that later tonight spooky, Im getting ready to head out to the shop in just little bit... That is if I can stop reading stuff on here... :lol:
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Kentucky shinner wrote:if I can stop reading stuff on here...

:D
I know right. I been meaning to cook up a (panela) rum batch for the past 2 days.
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WalkingWolf wrote:Looking good KS. You making some good progress
Mr.Spooky wrote: . . . on second thought, if that dremel got out of your hand, that would be like sticking your arm in a coon filled tote sack.
ouch!
Hey Spooky -- ya got a story that goes along with that line or is it purely circumstantial??

I never got into it with a coon but I had the opportunity to see a cat sneak into a rabbit cage and there was a mess of babies bout a week old. That cat got beat from every angle and finally got out that cage within an inch of its life. It was hilarious (I hate cats)
no , no coons but once with a squirle in a hole in a tree. thought it was dead. :econfused:
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Ok just finshed making one still pretty hot in the shop so I came in to cool and thought I would load up the pics of the sight glass build..

First put it in a vise to hold firmly while you cut it
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cut the end off at the threads leaving the threads. I do this by screwing it all the way in before I make the cut
cut the end off at the threads leaving the threads. I do this by screwing it all the way in before I make the cut
1 1/8" dowel rod fits perfect for holding this while using the disc sander. you could do this with a file in the vise.
1 1/8" dowel rod fits perfect for holding this while using the disc sander. you could do this with a file in the vise.
try to square this up as much as possible. your glass will be on this side and it needs to tighten  even.
try to square this up as much as possible. your glass will be on this side and it needs to tighten even.
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remove the threaded piece.
remove the threaded piece.
turn it over and screw back in
turn it over and screw back in
screw it back in the holder. You may have to dress the threads some with a file. most I did not have to do this though
screw it back in the holder. You may have to dress the threads some with a file. most I did not have to do this though
after turning the threaded end around make cuts so you can tighten and unscrew this part
after turning the threaded end around make cuts so you can tighten and unscrew this part
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almost finished now
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slide the insert over your dowel. again you could do this step in a vise with a file.
slide the insert over your dowel. again you could do this step in a vise with a file.
again square this up the very best that you can. this will be seating against the glass also. Of course you will have some type of gasket next to the glass. I plan on using teflon.
again square this up the very best that you can. this will be seating against the glass also. Of course you will have some type of gasket next to the glass. I plan on using teflon.
Ta Da... a sight glass is born
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Now all you have to do is smooth things up and make um pretty..
Hope this helps... Let me know if this is not clear enough.
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man this is great! one question, about how much are you taking off here? just enough to get a flat surface?
thanks for the extra work!
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just enough to get a flat surface about 1/8" wide.
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i have to thank olddog for the sight glass trick .. This was all his. I am a mere Jedi and he is ob 1 kanobe...
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did not get much done again tonight.. I worked on my graham condenser some. I called my plumbing supply house today and priced 2- 3" caps for my graham condenser... Ouch it was going to be $65 for 2 damn caps... I decided there is not any weight to speak of on the condenser, all the weight is really on the coil..I deciced to make my caps, they aint as perdy as store bought but I think they will work... I finished one tonight I will to the other and run the plumbing on it tomorrow.. Dont give me to much hell I no it aint much to look at...
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Hell KS,
That's a great guide "How to make a side glass" :D
Think you're building something beautifull, and so damn fast, I can't keep up with reading. :shock:
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With all of the Flute building going on now, we are going to have enough for an orchestra. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


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Nice tutorial KS, an great photos... :D
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hey KY, i noticed in one of your pics that the brass nut on the sight glasses was away from the column about 1/8" or so.
do you think that there would be a problem with puting then flush agenst the column and soldering them to the column?
hope you can understand my question
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You did the right thing by fabing your own end caps. Those will add alot less weight also.
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That's a great tutorial KS. OD is the master Jedi-Knight OB-1-Kinobe but a great student you have turned out to be. Keep it coming.
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Mr.Spooky wrote:hey KY, i noticed in one of your pics that the brass nut on the sight glasses was away from the column about 1/8" or so.
do you think that there would be a problem with puting then flush agenst the column and soldering them to the column?
hope you can understand my question
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I dont really see what it would hurt.
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I think your end caps look better than store bout ones!

RE: sight glasses and lighting. I think we could use a coupling like you use, but not cut it at all. Solder a cap over the end, drill a small hole, run the LED or whatever light through from behind, with the wire exiting this hole, protected by a cheap rubber grommet. Then add the glass and gaskets as usual. Or am I missing something? I wouldn't look as elegant as these do, but we'd have interior lighting at the flip of a switch.

Question on the deflag: can't we just add a short liebig between the column and the product condenser? Seems like they're the same thing, yet again, not as elegant. Or a simple coil condenser inside the column, at the top?
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Basically I think the Delphag is a huge leibig. But it is made to handle allot vapor, allot more then the normal Liebig. I am pretty sure Im gonna have to through allot of heat to this thing to make it work correctly.
as far as the lighting I do think that would work. and I may later try to do that. but for now I have scratched that. It can be added at a later date...
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