Nitrile/EPDM seals?

[Austin Nichols]

Every time we get one of these threads regarding "the Parent Site" I become suspicious of the thread and the posters motive.

Why?

I seen that the OP was genuine. And every time someone new comes on here and asks a question they get told to go read, read, read the parent site....apparently all the info one needs is right there..... all we gotta do is read read read.

If people come in here and expect everything to be there like a recipe for cup cakes they will surely be disappointed, because it isn't that simple. We try to advise and then get arguments about what is on "The Parent Site" and it doesn't matter how may times the admin say we are unable to re-write it owing to copyright it just doesn't seem to sink in. Why not?? It's a fairly simple concept.

Why not?

Well for a start we get told all the info we need is on the parent site, go do your research, read read read, nobody asked for cup cake fuckin recipe's because they can get on a forum and be given those recipes in a polite manner. And if you cant change the info on the parent site it shouldnt be thrown in our face because that's your problem and you as a mod or admin need to address that and fix it if this situation keeps arising. so yeh fairly fuckin simple hey.

So, if a poster comes in here and tells this community that plastic, rubber or whatever else is safe and they choose to ignore what it suggests, I now figure let 'em go for it. It won't kill me or even make me crook

I didnt see manback saying anything of the sort, maybe you need to read read read.... what a fucked attitude that statement suggests.

What does worry me is that a genuine new distiller may take the advice that the loser in question has posted and they may be harmed. I guess that's exactly what these mischievous posters are seeking. There are some very strange folk in this world

If I was manback I would be very offended at these comments directed at him, your supposed to be a moderater that keeps things peaceful here, yet you attack the OP in a personal manner..... I'm not surprised M'back reacted like he did.

You did a similar thing in my post "What's the Go" and missed the mark by a mile calling me a whinging Aussie, I think you need to READ READ READ before you go acting like a jerk mr moderater.

Finally! the comments by so called mentors and moderators here in this thread are fucked! I would've thought it not being in the best interest of this hobby to tell people to go kill them selves or be accused of the things being implied here....

What a fucking joke!

[Tater]

Well guess you told us.Now that you have that off your chest please go back to playing nice.If anyone isn't happy on this forum simply go elsewhere.Now lets keep this on topic .

[ozone39]

Wow, that guy was pissed. .....seems like gasket material is a touchy suject......hahahaha

[WalkingWolf]

I can't, for the life of me, understand the angst generated here. We should be frolicking in debauchery but find ourselves wallowing in vitriol. Much like the lowly cigarette guides the poor, addicted soul -- so goes the vulnerable. You don't like the flavor of the wash -- move on.

[ozone39]

Couple weeks ago some engineer duder was on here telling us how the ponu worked and what not. Then at the end of it all he used silicone gaskets....Sometimes a guy just has say fuck it and let these guys figure it out the hard way...And when their spirits taste like a used motorcycle tire they'll be asking why on a seperate post....Over here in the trades we have a term for this type......master appentices..hahaha

[Tater]

Next off topic post on this thread gets poster a 2 week vacation from this forum.

[MuleKicker]

The thing with all the synthetics now is, well they are too new to really know the long term consequences of using them. I dont care what scientist says what. Plenty of scientists have deemed things safe, when years later we find people dieing from them. So the error on the side of caution we need to use/promote the substances that we KNOW are safe. Anything else, and you are on your own. Plain and simple.

edit: Glad I wasnt off topic....

[bgrizzle]

We should be frolicking in debauchery but find ourselves wallowing in vitriol.

THAT'S FUNNY... ASLMOST POETIC... WW, that's just plain funny!

Now back on topic:
About the use of rubbers... the first time I used one, I didnt like it... Hadn't used one since...

[rednose]

Next off topic post on this thread gets poster a 2 week vacation from this forum.

Dic-tater

[rad14701]

Next off topic post on this thread gets poster a 2 week vacation from this forum.

Dic-tater

That would be Administrator, rednose...

Back on topic, the concerns regarding such things as synthetics isn't just about a specific synthetic, per se, they relate more to how a novice might consider approval of a specific synthetic as meaning that any synthetic is good to use...

Here's my point... I can hold three or four synthetic seals in my hand and ask someone to tell me what each of them is made of and whether it is safe for a particular use or not... I'll wager money that 99.9% of those people couldn't come close to even guessing what those seals are made of or what their properties...

So, let's say a novice comes here and reads that a member has used a red or a white seal on their still... The next time he is at the hardware store he notices a red seal that will fit his needs perfectly... Does that novice have the right seal...??? Are we willing to give the idea that it is alright for him to chance using that seal...??? Should we just shrug it off as being his own responsibility...???

All members here need to start thinking about keeping everyone safe in the simplest manner possible... It is alright to post information about products but that in no way implies that the membership has to give approval, regardless of any and all information provided... What someone decides to do from wherever they are reading this forum is up to them, but when they can claim that someone said it was alright to use then we have potential problems... If that kind of logic doesn't sit well with anyone then they are free to stop visiting this site... It's as simple as that...

We will continue to err on the side of caution and let people make their own mistakes in their corner of the world based purely on their own decisions and not by approval here on this site simply because someone found documentation stating that it should be alright to use...

Safety, first and foremost...

[Filby]

So out this (horrendous OP bashing) thread I can gather that PTFE is a suitable thread sealer in a still? Just want to confirm.


Cheers

Fil

[ozone39]

I use it...

[Stilly]

Here in the lab we use nitrile gloves. No problems with ethanol, methanol, isopropanol, or water. But acetone is a killer, one drop will eat right through them. That is basically all the solvents we use here. Never used EDPM so I don't have any experience. Wait a minute....what site are we on? Oh right......

If it ain't glass, SS, or copper it's bad. Shame on you for asking!!!

-Loneswinger

I use Nitrile gloves when handling acetone a lot in the machine shop. They hold up fine. Harbor Freight brand. Maybe my acetone from the hardware store ain't as wicked as the stuff Loneswinger uses. Not saying I want to use Nitrile in my still, but for gloves for handling nasty stuff I like it.

[olddog]

This thread is now locked, enough damage has been done


OD