Arduino anyone?

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@loneswinger - 10' of 2" for $100 - still a steal but I didn't want to buy 10' at this moment (taxes aren't back yet)

As for you comment on the plates... hmm... Do you have any links on this so I can read up on it before I start building next weekend?
Would it help to possibly have two different take off valves, one at the top and one at the bottom of the plates, depending on what stage in the process I'm at? Or wouldn't I gain anything and should just drop the plate count to 2 or 3?

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@Rad - I know I know :) I believe you and am only trying to tweak this bokakob still. I don't think that having "extras" in my still will hurt, and your probably right they may not help, and in that case they are there for looks :)
The solder to copper comes next weekend when I have all my copper. :ebiggrin:

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Sr WiNdTech wrote:@Rad - I know I know :) I believe you and am only trying to tweak this bokakob still.
Stop it, dammit...!!! :evil: If it ain't broke, and you haven't run it, don't try to fix it... :twisted:

I'm trying to save you from yourself... :mrgreen:
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rad14701 wrote:
Sr WiNdTech wrote:@Rad - I know I know :) I believe you and am only trying to tweak this bokakob still.
Stop it, dammit...!!! :evil: If it ain't broke, and you haven't run it, don't try to fix it... :twisted:

I'm trying to save you from yourself... :mrgreen:

:egeek: - What did all of you say when the bokakob design came out? Did you all say it wouldn't work?

Do you think that for the concept of a bokakob, that the stock bokakob is the best and that it can't be improved?

Where is Hook, I haven't seen a reply from him :(. The first post I read here was from Hook (back then sinker)
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rad14701 wrote:The fact of the matter is that cuts are not made based on temperature changes... Your spirit take off can change from heads to hearts to tails with virtually zero change in vapor temperature... The cuts will smell, taste, and feel different, but the vapor temperature may not change or change very little... It all depends on several factors, such as wash composition, %ABV of the wash, reflux column configuration, reflux ratio, heat, cooling, and on and on... I have done entire runs where the temperature never changed 2 degrees F from foreshots through tails...
That is actually not true. Temperature rises 0,2 degrees when you get under 95,6% (when some tails mix with the body). That is the way E-ARC (Electric Automatic Reflux Controll) stills work. Basically a thermometer probe with 0,1 C resolution, a magnetic valve and a thermostat to control it. Both VM and LM stills can be tweaked pretty easily to work with that kind of setup. It's described in detail in this book http://www.amphora-society.com/Designin ... p_0-3.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
My advise is to not try any automation before reading that, as rad wrote; no need to reinvent the wheel twice.

EDIT sorry saw that loneswinger already mentioned the book.
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Hook is a very clever man. He's gone fishing, for fish. :)
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Having looked at the Arduino card in some detail and read a bit on E-ARC, a system could be put together very easily to control the still electronically, making for partial automation. Python could be used to control the system on an old Linux box with Serial RS323 or Centronics for the interface between computer and still. Partial automation can record anything you have a mind to record and can come in very handy when replication of a certain beverage should be produced.

But I'm with Rad on this one... Learn to drive what you have first, then you'll know exactly what bells and whistles are needed to enhance what you already know is a winning formula...

I love the hands on approach that manual distillation gives me. Yes I record on an old HP Linux box, but only what I need to replicate a good run..
And I do make some very nice whiskey with the recipes in the tried and true section of HD...

Just my 2cents guy's... :D :D :D
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aqua vitae suecicus wrote:
rad14701 wrote: My advise is to not try any automation before reading that, as rad wrote; no need to reinvent the wheel twice.
I'm sorry, I guess I need to create a different thread and then later on merge these topics. ( I kinda just kept going in this thread...sorry) For now I won't even worry about automation,

I will only be adding multiple temp probes to understand more of what is happening inside the still to eventually help me with the automation process. As for the book I will be buying it when I'm most the way done with "the compleat distiller"
Samohon wrote:Having looked at the Arduino card in some detail and read a bit on E-ARC, a system could be put together very easily to control the still electronically, making for partial automation. Python could be used to control the system on an old Linux box with Serial RS323 or Centronics for the interface between computer and still. Partial automation can record anything you have a mind to record and can come in very handy when replication of a certain beverage should be produced.

But I'm with Rad on this one... Learn to drive what you have first, then you'll know exactly what bells and whistles are needed to enhance what you already know is a winning formula...
I have everything I need for this to be accomplished, problem is I don't know python or any other language for that matter, I can read code but can't write it. I'm very good with BASH scripting but that's about it. Have you any programs or any links to something like you speak of.
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These may be interesting then...


http://www.brewtroller.com/wiki/doku.php?id=start" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
http://www.halfluck.com/automation/habs" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
http://brewbot.sourceforge.net/design.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
http://home.highertech.net/~cdp/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow this page in particular perhaps... (http://home.highertech.net/~cdp/rimsnew/rimsnew.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow)
http://www.arduino.cc/playground/Code/PIDLibrary" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

http://www.phidgets.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow


http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2011/01/19 ... y-posters/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow (was going to suggest in off-topic anyway that some clever spark could create some of our own "safety" posters, this page happens to be Arduino realted too)

http://www.manways-opa.com/index.php/pr ... -din-28120" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow

Can't comment on these yet, just links that I've saved in my "travels" or had sent to me.

Hope of interest/use! :-)
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azeo wrote:These may be interesting then...

Hope of interest/use! :-)

WOW just awesome! Thanks! I'll spend tomorrow looking through some of these, I've been to some of the sites before, I may of even bought my arduino from adafruit.
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no problem

This may be handy - again a saved link while surfing the web and haven't yet had a cause to use company so don't know anything about them..

http://www.oceancontrols.com.au/home.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
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Sr WiNdTech wrote:I have everything I need for this to be accomplished, problem is I don't know python or any other language for that matter, I can read code but can't write it. I'm very good with BASH scripting but that's about it. Have you any programs or any links to something like you speak of.
Seems azeo got there before me. If your any good with the BASH scripting language I think it may only be a small jump to python or C.

Get your still up and running then decide what you want it to do.

I'd love to see how this pans out in the long run, but I'd definitely approach it from another angle...

Guess that's what makes us all unique... :D

Good luck man... :D
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Latest design.... (Thanks to all the great PM's :) )

Note: This design is based off of people on a forum talking back and forth and then thrown into one design, the information could or could not be correct, I have books on order but haven't gotten any of them yet. Books are mostly known facts, as forums are not. :econfused:
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You still have drawn the two takeoffs next to each other. Make it like you have but make the takeoff section with just two plates and make it short: just build the original design but in modular sections. If you want to later add on a heads trap you will put another short column with packing above the takeoff, then on top of that add a small liquid trap/secondary heads takeoff, on top of that your condenser.

As it is drawn now, the two takeoffs would be pulling out the same stuff, there will be little if any theoretical plates between those two takeoffs in your drawing. Just build the original design, since your sections are modular, it will be easy to add on stuff in the future. But even if you do add on, the three parts that you will build now: column, takeoff, condenser, will remain unchanged. You are almost there, just make the takeoff section be two plates as in the original design. Even if you don't understand why the original is a good idea now, you will after a few runs and a better grasp of the theory. The modular original is the correct starting point for future add-ons.

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I think I understand.... problem with going to modular right now is that just two more adapters would run $30-40, my wife says I've already spent to much :roll:


I've had a hard time narrowing down any pictures of a head trap in a bokakob, and was thinking that the first distillate would be heads and it would pool up in the top take off, then over flowing till it reaches the next take off, at which point I would drain both of them (gotta figure out how I'll know when they are both full....), now I'm not sure how much each slant plate will hold in terms of volume yet I may end up modifying their size to accommodate more distillate. I shortened the ramp of the top take off plate so it will hold a larger volume of distillate, I may take out the ramp completely actually.

Maybe I misunderstood where the packing should go aswell?

Could I get a quick paint sketch from you :)

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Would this work for a head trap?

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No that won't work as a heads trap, that is just another LM takeoff.
When all heads are drained in the top take off, you will have ethanol there as well as at the lower take off. Whats the reason to have a lower take off at all in that case?
You cant leave the heads at the top takeoff either as reflux will dilute it and heads will taint the lower takeoff as well.

Right now it seems like you are trying to invent the wheel a second time. Rikus book will give you all details in how to remove heads without having them tainting the product takeoff. If your missus is unhappy with you putting so much money in it you might want to consider getting it right the first time...
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hmmm, I admire the enthusiasm and energy there! I don't often comment on build ideas, but many peopel have advised already perhaps a slightly less headlong rush into unknown territory, and I'm a bit inlcined to advise the same, you can still jump in the deep-end but perhaps start with copying a design on here that is well documented, suits materials and budget (and perhaps 2nd hand "finds" too), and will provide answers to many of your questions as you build and operate.

I'd start with finding a suitable boiler and heating method, a suitably sized column, packing and attachment methods/fittings, and then the simplest/quickest to assemble reflux method. Cooling management, although not that well regarded, is easy to set up, and although needs plenty of manual interaction, gives a great introduction to reflux control, wash composition, vapor temps etc, due to the amount of interaction it needs.

It's as simple as putting a cooling coil between the "top" of the column, and the output condensor - no slant plates, heads removers etc, required (although a reflux centering collar wouldn't go astray possibly), and if this is attached with slip-on fittings (sealed with teflon tape or flour paste), or screw fittings, it's not hard to add in liquid or vapor management, bokabobs, slant plates, reflux centering collars etc, later. It does require a needle valve for the cooling coil water, but this could certainly be used for LM later on. With a bit of juggling, it's possible to build a head that allows all three methods of reflux control to be tried.

It will provide the chance to start 'stillin as soon as possible (if that is desired), and also a test-bed for all the different ideas, the results of which could be posted. It's no fluke that after all these years there are some basic designs in LM, VM, CM that haven't changed much - although fine tuning is always happening, and anything new that works well, is, and would be, welcomed gladly!

On the monitoring and control front, for something really easy, simple and cheap, with huge amounts of support and info, one can't really go past "Stampplot" (a free serial graphing and control program, stampplot-"lite" is good to start with), and PIC microcontrollers, without a look, especially "Picaxes", an educational version with built-in serial bootloader (no programmer required), free downloadable "IDE" and "basic" compiler.

The chips are, well, as cheap as chips, and although diy is required, there are many pcbs, kits, and complete boards on the market to suit the level of assembly desired. They support a wide range of interesting devices (inc digital temp sensors eg) "natively" and allow ideas to be tried out very quickly without having to do a course in software engineering etc.

They can encourage poor programming and implementation practices, but do allow quick funcional prototyping before moving on to more industrial/professional methods/platforms (if desired), and very good for the hobbyist/amateur especially being low cost, popular, and well supported.

A wireless (or even wired to start with) thermometer feeding into a laptop/pc, would be a good first project for recording head temps etc, and still leave plenty of time to focus on the mechanics of a still build.

For a column, at least one remote temp probe and display is very useful to have, saves having to jump on a chair/ladder to read a thermometer at the head if it's a tall column.

At the end of the day, <edit: got a bit mixed up with another topic in "Fuel ethanol, but this comment still sort of applies too> , the feedstocks, sourcing, treatments, conversion and fermenting etc are also important, perhaps even more so, so I'd be gathering info on all fronts furiously!

Start simple with all aspects, get the idea, go from there - that will provide plenty of info and experience, quite quickly too. That's what I suggest... :-)
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aqua vitae suecicus wrote:No that won't work as a heads trap, that is just another LM takeoff.
When all heads are drained in the top take off, you will have ethanol there as well as at the lower take off. Whats the reason to have a lower take off at all in that case?
You cant leave the heads at the top takeoff either as reflux will dilute it and heads will taint the lower takeoff as well.

Right now it seems like you are trying to invent the wheel a second time. Rikus book will give you all details in how to remove heads without having them tainting the product takeoff. If your missus is unhappy with you putting so much money in it you might want to consider getting it right the first time...
:arrow: Also directed at anyone else who has posted in my thread :!:


Well then... because I haven't seen a heads trap in a bokakob (have you, has anyone) can you point me to a better design, you all say go for a tried and true design, well point me to a bokakob with a heads trap and I will start building......

As far as any designs I've seen of a heads trap (in other style stills) I see no reason why this wouldn't work.

I'll explain my thoughts: 100% of the distillate when running the left coil at the beginning of the run will go into the heads trap, once I'm done with the heads I'll drain the heads trap. Then I will switch over to the right coil and be on my merry little reflux way, as the alcohol should condense and fall from the right coil straight down and it shouldn't interfere with the heads take off at all I wouldn't think, and if it does, then no biggie as I will have already drained the heads anyway and it can fill up and over flow all it wants.

Then the reason for the the lower take off is that is where I'll take my hearts, now If i go with this 2nd design (heads trap in the top section) then I will shorten up the middle section and only have 1 take off and probably 2 slant plates.

I'm a person who customizes everything, some people call me a "hacker" because that is what a hacker is, You can walk around my house and see many customized things, I KNOW there is a better way to do something, I'm all about experimenting. I think I could build a damn nice VM, but I want an LM, mostly because the design is so simple, but I want to make the design difficult, and some of you don't like that. I mean after all look where we are today with "color tv" I mean who ever though there would be anything but black and white, or whatever... you know where I'm going with this. The FACT is, there are better designs maybe it will take me 50 drawings before someone on this forum says.... wow that just may work... oh well, I'll wait on the still to get this right, and the whole reason I'm here is to get input from you guys on how it could be done, instead i'm getting a bunch of FLACK for no reason, hey guess what I've made up my mind on what I want to do, so don't reply in my thread unless you can help with the current design, if your going to tell me to build another design or that it can't be done then I don't need to hear it, because your WRONG :!:

Now some of you have been helping in the thread and through PM and without you helping I wouldn't be this far in the design, as the double condenser heads trap Idea that was all mine, if it sux then help me figure out why.


Thanks and I don't want to piss anybody off but alot of you are old school and/or just do what your told, and don't think for yourself. I am a Hacker and I will Hack a still design to make it better. So either join me in this almost impossible journey or don't even bother reading my posts.....

enough said :shock:


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I forgot to add the little angle on the take off plate to let it overflow and reflux aswell as another centering plate, but it was quick, obvisiouly the final drawing will be more detailed and it will have threaded adapters.
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You've talked the talk, now walk the walk...

No member here is going to reserve comment based on your request, they will interject as they deem needed, not as you desire...
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rad14701 wrote:You've talked the talk, now walk the walk...

No member here is going to reserve comment based on your request, they will interject as they deem needed, not as you desire...
How did I guess you were going to be the first to reply :p

I'm trying to do exactly as you say, I'm trying to walk the walk.

also I see no need for anyone to interject, it's just a waste of their typing....
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I tried to help you with the heads trap idea and concept, and it is clear to me that you do not understand the concept. You need separation, ie packing and height between the hearts takeoff and the heads trap, otherwise it is just a distillate trap and will gain you little; you will still have to bleed out all of the heads to get to the hearts the way you drew it. The fact that the drawing I sent you had a VM takeoff was irrelevant to the heads trap concept. Yes it has been done with LM as well, even with ARC. Just replace the VM takeoff with a LM takeoff and you are done. Or better, purchase Riku's book, read it, and try to get a firm grasp on the theory before you start to build something with a heads trap.

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I guess I didn't take into account the long distance between the heads trap and the normal take off. I really am trying to understand this concept but it seems without riku's book I can't quite get it(I do have packing at the top of the normal take off column before the condenser but I guess 4" of packing isn't enough between the heads trap and the normal take off....?)

so if I made it something like this:

Condenser - 3" pipe - 8" tall
Heads Take-off column (not designed yet) - 2" pipe 6" tall
Packing column - 2" pipe 24" tall
Take-off column - 2" pipe 6" tall
Packing column - 2" pipe 24"' tall
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Heat Source
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In that order as you would see it sitting on the floor
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There is a forum for those who own the book where you can discuss different designs here http://arc.forum24.se" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" rel="nofollow
I won't comment further on your heads trap designs in public (not in PM either) because I am not the one that invented these designs and I wouldn't be a decent guy if I give away other peoples prints. You know by now where to buy them though... :wink:
I just didn't want you to build a design that wouldn't work that's why I commented your designs until now :)
Good luck!
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Sr WiNdTech wrote:Image


Does anybody know a recipe that would give me something close to this? I have never had any better likker than this :)
i dont know.... but when i saw that , i was intriegued (??sp??). so i drove 45 minuets to the liquer store and got me a bottle of evan williams honey reserve,, and a few other things... 4 / sixpacks of a micro beers, some cachaca 51,, a little captian spice,, some saki,, and a few others.
i am suprised as to how good this honey reserve is... id like to duplicate as well!!!
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I haven't had Evan Williams but I'm sure it's just as good :) I'm glad I've found a guy who likes this, I have this posted in the recipe forum aswell - I'll link you -

http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 11&t=19584
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Sr WiNdTech wrote:I haven't had Evan Williams but I'm sure it's just as good :) I'm glad I've found a guy who likes this, I have this posted in the recipe forum aswell - I'll link you -

http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 11&t=19584
its a little/ alot sweet,, but its pretty good with water. i still like it.
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Mr.Spooky wrote:
Sr WiNdTech wrote:I haven't had Evan Williams but I'm sure it's just as good :) I'm glad I've found a guy who likes this, I have this posted in the recipe forum aswell - I'll link you -

http://homedistiller.org/forum/viewtopi ... 11&t=19584
its a little/ alot sweet,, but its pretty good with water. i still like it.
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I mix it with squirt or 7up
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If some comments here do seem a bit blunt or unhelpfull, do try and keep in mind that contribitors are trying to help, aiming to try and save possibly unnecessary work etc, have mostly seen it all before, but *do* encourage and support new ideas, tweaks etc...

Go for it and good luck!
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azeo wrote:If some comments here do seem a bit blunt or unhelpfull, do try and keep in mind that contribitors are trying to help, aiming to try and save possibly unnecessary work etc, have mostly seen it all before, but *do* encourage and support new ideas, tweaks etc...

Go for it and good luck!
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This thread is just a collection of random thoughts, as the title has nothing to do with the last page or so :econfused:

I guess I'm just looking for a head trap design that has worked in a Bok and then I will try to make tweaks.

Since nobody can come up with any useful information on this (as in a drawing), other than pointing me to a book, or telling me in words how it might work. I have no choice but to do it on my own, and as a new comer to this it's just trial and error until I can get somebody to say... yeah.. that should work!!


Other than that I have the design down for what I'll do w/o the heads trap
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ok,,ok... yea, that will work... now get on with it!!!!!
if it aint been done before, then the only answers that your gonna get is just speculation... give it a shot and see what happens!!
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